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Just started Persona 4. (Bought it totally overpriced in store, instead of ordering it online.. needed something for the next day's.)
I wonder which difficulty i should choose.. i thought P3 FES was pretty tough.



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@crystalchild, persona 4 was a very good game. i am considering the psvita version when it comes out as well.
just paid off my copy of : tales of the abyss for the 3ds today.



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Crystalchild said:
Just started Persona 4. (Bought it totally overpriced in store, instead of ordering it online.. needed something for the next day's.)
I wonder which difficulty i should choose.. i thought P3 FES was pretty tough.

Persona 4 is much easier than P3 FES, given the fact that you can control all your team members. I'd advice you playing on Expert. Heck even a Solo run on P4 Expert is easier than P3



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Oh god i fell in love with Persona 4. so fucked up, freaked out, and outright awesome.

And i just watched the Midnight Channel regarding (Spoilers? -- >) the second Victim that is supposed to be saved by the group, the person after Yuki-chan. (Its so weird that my Ex Gf's beeing called the same lmao, i giggle everytime.) .. however, regarding Nr2, i was like..

NOooooo.... noo...nononohhohohohonooooo... XD



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@crytalchild,if u could choose your top 10 favorite all-time rpg's, what would they be?
also if u could pick your top 5 favorite action/rpg's , what would they be?



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ill give u a list tomorrow, need sleep.. xD But wanted to post this quick:

i am 35 hours into persona, and if it has a great last third, it might become.. (i am so sorry, squaresoft games) .. my alltime favourite Game.



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Crystalchild said:
ill give u a list tomorrow, need sleep.. xD But wanted to post this quick:

i am 35 hours into persona, and if it has a great last third, it might become.. (i am so sorry, squaresoft games) .. my alltime favourite Game.

I'm doing the opposite, your previous post had me itching to start a new Persona 3 FES playthrough XD

But this time is a Hard Solo MC run...and I had forgotten just how hard P3 FES was >_>.



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lestatdark said:
Crystalchild said:
ill give u a list tomorrow, need sleep.. xD But wanted to post this quick:

i am 35 hours into persona, and if it has a great last third, it might become.. (i am so sorry, squaresoft games) .. my alltime favourite Game.

I'm doing the opposite, your previous post had me itching to start a new Persona 3 FES playthrough XD

But this time is a Hard Solo MC run...and I had forgotten just how hard P3 FES was >_>.


i'll start P3 again, too ~ once i am done with P4, Dungeon Siege 3, Alice and (starting christmas -> ) Skyward Sword.

The Reason i stopped P3 was, because i grinded too much. and since there was only one big dungeon, i got bored. I didnt know that i actually dont have to. O_o .. atleast in P4, maybe 20% of my playtime was spent in dungeons, the rest was just socializing. And this aspect really shines. i actually care for those pixel's, and everytime Nanako is saddened, i cant help myself but to feel sorry for that little girl. and if there are funny moments, they're hilarious as hell to me. Dunno, i just have a great time, though i will do some leveling, since i am in the Scifi dungeon, and its quite hard with L40.. i mean, i cried tears of joy when i killed the 3Dot Game Hero lol.! xD

 

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Top 10 ARPGs: (5 spots dont do those games justice, sorry ^^)

1. Nier (PS360) (THE best Storyline this Generation. One of the best of all time. + the first time White text on black background + some music made me shed tears -> Kaine's Backstory.)

2. Star Ocean: TLH (PS360) (A Game that felt Old School. the good way. and i needed it after all those new'ish Next Gen Games. Great World, cool Story, superb Combat System.)

3. Terranigma (SNES) (Great Gameplay, ahead of its time.)

4. Phantasy Star Online (If Online Games count, of not ignore this) (Nerded it with friends for 1,5 Years straight. in F***IN SPLITSCREEN. Oo!)

5. Infinite Uniscovery  (X360) (While it wasnt in the same league as others, it delivered the experience it wanted to be. and that is something i appreciate.)

6.  Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2) (See KH1, KH2 was only bigger and slightly better.)

7. Demon's Souls (PS3) (No big story. No Open World. but an AMAZING athmospere... and since i am a Storywhore, i was stunned that DS actually made me play it for 130~ Hours.)

8. Kingdom Hearts (1)(PS2) (While i didnt like the Disney Aspect, Sora and his Friends were quite cool, and the story very interresting.)

9. Dragon Age II (Yes, i am serious. it blew me that Bioware did tell finally another kind of Mainstory.* they cought me off guard i guess.)

10. Drakengard 2 (I dont know why it is in here. i barely remember it. but my mind keeps tellin' that i loved it. what i remember from the story was quite cool.)

honorable Mention; The Elder Scrolls Series

*BioWare Story; Face Evil, and get defeated, or see the world getting almost ruined. -> recruit X Party Members. -> kill previously unbeatable Evil.

 

TOP 10 RPGs:

(???) Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (Not nearly done yet, if this game keeps up, it'll be on that list.)

1. Final Fantasy VIII (PSX) (The first Big RPG i played after getting the Console. i was forking stunned. i even dreamed of it)

2. Final Fantasy VII (PSX) (i was irritated how awful it looked compared to VIII. Note; i was a kid, and shocked to see bricks.. or, when i saw, i did shit bricks? i sure like internet memes. =D)

3. Shadow Hearts Covenant (PS2) (See Enchanted Arms)

4. Final Fantasy X(PS2) (primarilly lower because i blamed it for looking ugly. yes, little did i know as a child. i was missing an Overworld Map and those awesome PSX background graphics.)

5. Enchanted Arms (360) (Great, underrated game.)

6. Legend of Dragoon (PSX) (recently replayed. Aged poorly. =(. cheesy dialogue for todays standarts.)

7. Final Fantasy X-2 (PSX) (I didnt expect as much as others, and a big bump because  '1000 Words' made me actually cry.)

8: Final Fantasy IX (See LoD)

9. Lost Odyssey (To be honest, i have to replay it. i forgot too much about this game.)

10. Grandia



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I like RPGs with a turn-based battle system. I feel as though any alterations to that basic formula usually ends up in a cheaper feeling experience. Not always though, I found that some games have been somewhat successful adding in some action elements such as the ATB system used in Xenogears, FF4-9, and Chrono Trigger.

Games which have gone to an almost action style game (like Kingdom Hearts) are not even really RPGs anymore, they're action-adventure.



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Jumpin said:

I like RPGs with a turn-based battle system. I feel as though any alterations to that basic formula usually ends up in a cheaper feeling experience. Not always though, I found that some games have been somewhat successful adding in some action elements such as the ATB system used in Xenogears, FF4-9, and Chrono Trigger.

Games which have gone to an almost action style game (like Kingdom Hearts) are not even really RPGs anymore, they're action-adventure.

That's a very limited and narrow way to look at the RPG genre. So you're saying that games like Diablo, any ES game and many others are not RPGs, even though they have much more RPG elements than most FF games or turn-based games?.

Do you know that some of the very first computorized RPGs were not turn based too? Eye of the Beholder, the Ultima series, the Wizardry series, etc.
Your definition of RPGs is very strictly adherent to what the JRPG sub-genre is about and, i'm sorry to tell you, JRPGs is but a niche sub-genre of the entire RPG genre. 

What about Tactical RPGs? By your definitions are they not RPGs but RTSs? Or Persona games? Are they only Dating Simulators because the RPG portions only encompass a tiny aspect of the game? There are more flaws in your logic that I could pick apart, but I don't see the necessity for it.

@Crystalchild

Indeed, constantly exploring Tartarus can become a bit of a nuisance, even if there are some slight changes between the Tiers. Even so, to me, I feel that the story of P3 is much more tight and cohesive than P4's one, even though I did enjoy finding the real murderer and the scenes on December were pretty amazing. Plus, P3 Fusion Spell system and Persona weapon enhancement system were pretty amazing and it was a real shame that they weren't mantained for P4.



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