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Forums - Sales - MS finishes Sony? ANOTHER Price-cut coming tomorrow in Europe

thx1139 on 11 December 2008
The Fury said:
...do they not want to make money or what? M$ game division still is in the red, regardless of their other divisions and making no money on the consoles won't help them move to the black.

 

 Simply not true. The MS Home & Entertainment Division has been profitable for over a year and will continue to be profitable.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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Spankey on 11 December 2008
thx1139 said:
The Fury said:
...do they not want to make money or what? M$ game division still is in the red, regardless of their other divisions and making no money on the consoles won't help them move to the black.

 

 Simply not true. The MS Home & Entertainment Division has been profitable for over a year and will continue to be profitable.

 

nice.

They were 2 billion down the year before.



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The Fury on 11 December 2008
thx1139 said:
The Fury said:
...do they not want to make money or what? M$ game division still is in the red, regardless of their other divisions and making no money on the consoles won't help them move to the black.

Simply not true. The MS Home & Entertainment Division has been profitable for over a year and will continue to be profitable.

Profitable for over a year does not mean they have made back the billions they lost on the first X-box and that ever so nice 1billion set a side for the RRoD 'mistake'.

 



Hmm, pie.

Spankey on 11 December 2008
The Fury said:
thx1139 said:
The Fury said:
...do they not want to make money or what? M$ game division still is in the red, regardless of their other divisions and making no money on the consoles won't help them move to the black.

Simply not true. The MS Home & Entertainment Division has been profitable for over a year and will continue to be profitable.

Profitable for over a year does not mean they have made back the billions they lost on the first X-box and that ever so nice 1billion set a side for the RRoD 'mistake'.

 

 

sadly, I think we're in need of this link again.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111003



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thx1139 on 11 December 2008
Lord N said:
NJ5 said:
Lord N said:

Then it's still unnecessary and redundant as Sony already took care of that from the start with the pricing and design of the PS3.

 

To a degree, you're right. But for every person who chooses a 360 instead of a PS3, the Playstation brandname loses more value. MS is clearly trying to push the Playstation brand down as much as possible.

They started with heavy price cuts in Japan, and are now moving on to Europe which is the next place where the Playstation brand was really strong. America was easier.

 

 

The questions you have to ask here are "Is it really worth it?", and "Is it having any real effect?". The answer to both is a resounding "No."

Let's look at the region you first brought up, Japan. The PS3 has been rather dead from the start, and the 360's sales have been outright dead, so the truckloads of money that they spent securing titles like Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, ToV, etc, coupled with all the money they've lost on price cuts has proven to be more costly than what it's really worth it.

Even in Europe, the 360's sales right now are high due to the holiday season. Prior to that, even after the second price cut, the sales difference was rather minimal, and the PS3 even outsold it one week before the holidays began. After the holidays are over, 360 sales will return the normal, and even if it's still ahead of the PS3, the sales difference will be rather minimal, certainly not what it is now.

You might be able to anwer in the affirmative to the aforementioned questions if the 360 was the market leader this generation, but that's not the case. Nothing that Microsoft has done has had any real effect on the PS3's sales. That can be credited to Sony's own mistakes, and if you want to bring up another console being bought instead of the PS3, then that is easily the Wii, not the 360.

So you see, MS's repeated attempts to hurt Sony haven't had any significant effect. What has had a significant effect is Sony's own blunders and the sucess of the Wii, the latter of which has also hurt Microsoft.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Afraid you dont have your facts straight. Since the price cut in September the smallest weekly lead the 360 has had in others has been 20K.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=------&cons2=PS3&reg2=Total+Other&cons3=X360&reg3=Total+Other&start=39698&end=39789

 



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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KillerMan on 11 December 2008

I am wondering how microsoft makes money with these prices. Especially with this economic crisis.



NJ5 on 11 December 2008

What money has been lost in the past doesn't matter much for investors and the company if the products are currently profitable.

If there's no net profit in the end that may potentially affect how much expense is put into future productions, but other than that the company will just keep happily posting their quarterly profits and investors won't bother with the past (especially when Microsoft as a whole makes billions every quarter).

 



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Neos on 11 December 2008

mikeb and nikkom;

did you guys know you can get a lbp bundle for 350 euros at dixons?

now thats cheap!



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NJ5 on 11 December 2008
Neos said:
mikeb and nikkom;

did you guys know you can get a lbp bundle for 350 euros at dixons?

now thats cheap!

The best way to buy a PS3 (or anything really) in Europe is probably from Amazon UK due to the weak pound->euro exchange rate. I bought a Wii+MK Wii+component cables for my brother this way and saved at least a few tens of euros.

 



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Neos on 11 December 2008
NJ5 said:
Neos said:
mikeb and nikkom;

did you guys know you can get a lbp bundle for 350 euros at dixons?

now thats cheap!

The best way to buy a PS3 (or anything really) in Europe is probably from Amazon UK due to the weak pound->euro exchange rate. I bought a Wii+MK Wii+component cables for my brother this way and saved at least a few tens of euros.

 

i got no creditcard so i can't buy anything off amazon..otherwise i would be using the vgc amazon store all the time!

 



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