RPG said:
But you admit that is a fact, who care if PS3 does not last a year more, it means it got the sales it did after being released a year later. This is the only time I have said such a thing so if that makes me a broken record to you, learn what is meant by that saying. ;) |
Are you serious???
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Nobody is claiming their 1st party was on par with Nintendo. Still, they had some decent PS1 titles. GT 1 and 2. Crash 1, 2 and 3, Crash Team Racing, The Spyro titles.
What did Sega have on the Saturn? The Virtua fighters Sega rally
Can't really think of anything else.
And for Katuriagi stealing from Nintendo - if they stole from Nintendo, they can't have just copied. After all, they ended up with superior hardware.
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Crash bandicoot? spyro the dragon? ha ha ha ha ha come on and naming only 2 saturn games is just sad.
So we have GT 1 & 2 (both 5 years after the ps1 came out and saturn was already dead) and spyro and crash
VS
Virtua fighter 1
Virtua fighter 2
Virtua cop 1
Virtua cop 2
House of the dead
Last bronx
Panzer dragoon
Fighters megamix
Fighting vipers
Daytoooooooooooooooooooona USA
Bug
Manx TT superbike
NIGHTS
Virtual on
So you see, the Saturn had loads of good games that Sega made (emphasis on the words "sega made" there)
Fumanchu said:
Are you serious???
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Why so serious?
Ah you got me but no, never said that before however my first sentance was not very well thought through.
Ronster316 said:
Thats funny, i know that the SNES beat the Megadrive but Sega were more than holding their own back then, what was Nintendos next machine after the SNES? yup, the N64, for me personally if sony had not gatecrashed the party theres a very strong chance the Sega saturn would have more than held its own against the N64, Nintendo and Sega both got beat up badly by Sony, yes, the ps1 beat the Saturn and N64 hands down due to Sony coming in all guns blazing and with money to burn........ I have explained this many times....... Microsoft may be doing what sony did back in 1994 but for me it was sony that turned this market in to the dog eat dog world it has become, therefore thats why i don't care anymore who wins...... As long as its not sony. And maybe your right, maybe Nintendo would have taken Sega out at some stage, but at least they would have won "Fair and square" not with big fat wallets and cheques. |
Putting it that way thats true to a large extent.
At anyrate yes sega is great @ making awesome quality games i get your point, but sony in the end did bring us some epic ones aswell, legend of the dragoon(PS1) was infact one of them tis a shame they never continued it.
But as people would say and i Really, REALLY hate this word...its Business...
I understand were your coming from though and i respect your opinion now. for example i wouldnt want Level 5 to take out Square Enix as an epic JRPG company nor would i want MS to take out Sony as a Hardware comapny so both MS and Sony do well at what they do and Level 5 and SE do well at what they do.
In conclusion, ... *sigh* ...
The gap isn't at 7 million yet but almost I'm thinking it will get over 8 million before narrowing again. I don't think the gap is to big for Sony to overcome. The PS3 still has change to outsell the 360 but if the gap gets over 10 million then I think its almost impossible for the PS3 to outsell the 360.
Ronster316 said:
Crash bandicoot? spyro the dragon? ha ha ha ha ha come on and naming only 2 saturn games is just sad. So we have GT 1 & 2 (both 5 years after the ps1 came out and saturn was already dead) and spyro and crash VS Virtua fighter 1 Virtua fighter 2 Virtua cop 1 Virtua cop 2 House of the dead Last bronx Panzer dragoon Fighters megamix Fighting vipers Daytoooooooooooooooooooona USA Bug Manx TT superbike NIGHTS Virtual on So you see, the Saturn had loads of good games that Sega made (emphasis on the words "sega made" there)
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Granted, I missed NIGHTS and House of the Dead. Still, the rest of yours aren't that great, or well known (at least I think so).
I also listed "the Virtua fighters", which was a mistake - should have been "the Virtua games".
You could list the same with the PS games. Note: I don't know the quality of all these games, as I didn't own a PS myself, but just play games at my friend's places and such.
The reason I didn't bother posting the rest of the titles here, and the titles you posted, is that this makes it a competition regarding the quantity of decent games instead of a competition between great games that people actually bought (other than the people in this discussion).
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261
That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Granted, I missed NIGHTS and House of the Dead. Still, the rest of yours aren't that great, or well known (at least I think so).
I also listed "the Virtua fighters", which was a mistake - should have been "the Virtua games". You could list the same with the PS games. Note: I don't know the quality of all these games, as I didn't own a PS myself, but just play games at my friend's places and such.
The reason I didn't bother posting the rest of the titles here, and the titles you posted, is that this makes it a competition regarding the quantity of decent games instead of a competition between great games that people actually bought (other than the people in this discussion).
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But ps1 outlived sega saturn by quite a large amount of time, in fact it outlived the Dreamcast too, so considering this maybe its only fair that i also add some great Dreamcast games to the games that i have already mentioned on the Saturn
Games like
Shenmue
Shenmue 2
Virtua fighter 3
Jet set Radio
Space channel 5
Crazy taxi 1 & 2
Super monkey ball
Sonic adventure
Sonic adventure 2
Confidential mission
Headhunter
Ferrari F355 challenge
Rez
Virtua tennis
Virtua tennis 2
Fighting vipers 2 ect..........
See, and these are only games for Saturn and Dreamcast, and lets not forget that sega made literally hundreds of games for the Megadrive/Genesis
you know
Sonic
Streets of rage
Shinobi
Golden axe
Comix zone
Vectorman
I think you know what i mean
I would be here all day if i had to name every game Sega has ever made.
Ronster316 said:
But ps1 outlived sega saturn by quite a large amount of time, in fact it outlived the Dreamcast too, so considering this maybe its only fair that i also add some great Dreamcast games to the games that i have already mentioned on the Saturn Games like Shenmue Shenmue 2 Virtua fighter 3 Jet set Radio Space channel 5 Crazy taxi 1 & 2 Super monkey ball Sonic adventure Sonic adventure 2 Confidential mission Headhunter Ferrari F355 challenge Rez Virtua tennis Virtua tennis 2 Fighting vipers 2 ect.......... See, and these are only games for Saturn and Dreamcast, and lets not forget that sega made literally hundreds of games for the Megadrive/Genesis you know Sonic Streets of rage Shinobi Golden axe Comix zone Vectorman I think you know what i mean I would be here all day if i had to name every game Sega has ever made. |
Why didnt you quote me to? aww now im sad. v_v
OF ALL THINGS I THINK SONY DESERVES WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGHT. JUST REMEMBER HOW THEY USED TO BRAG ABOUT HOW GREAT THEY WERE AND HOW NINTENDO AND MICROSOFT HAD TO FIGHT FOR THE LEFTOVERS. SINCE THE PS2 HAD 20 MILLION SDALES AND NINTENDO AND MICROSOFT HAD ABOUT 4 MILLION SALES WORLDWIDE. NOW SONY DOES NOT SEEM TO CARE ABOUT SALES AND THEY DON´T LIKE TO COMMENT, BUT BACK THEN IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM )JUST CAUSE THEY WERE WINING. SO THEY DESERVE IT. HOW CAN SONY COME FROM SELLING OVER 1.5 MILLION A WEEK WITH THE PS2 TO A LITTLE OVER 400,000 ON BLACK FRIDAY. THAT IS JUST EMBARRASING. AND DONT SAY TO LOOK AT THE PRICE POINT. BECAUSE THE WII HAS NOT MADE A PRICE CUT AND IS SELLING MORE. THE PS3 IS SELLING THE SAME. AND THE 360 IS SELLING LESS THAN THE WII EVENTHOUGH IT IS CHEAPER. AND THEY SAY THE WII SUCCESS IS CAUSE OF THE PRICE. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER FACE THE TRUTH
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