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I'd buy a Wii if it came out at $600 and just had Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros. at $50 each and no other games ever. Really.



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Game_boy said:
I'd buy a Wii if it came out at $600 and just had Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros. at $50 each and no other games ever. Really.

I probably would too, but many more wouldn't.  I think the same 20 million that bought Gamecube would buy a $250 Wii with only those games and be happy(I think that might really happen).



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Possibly, but if Nintendo ever ended up in that situation, I could see them expanding heavily into non-video game markets to make sure that if their video games division did suffer, the company itself would survive.



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No, I don't think so. They got pretty rich the last ten years, yes. But they lost massive amounts of market share. PlayStation took over in a very fundamental way. If Nintendo abandons third-party support, Sony and Microsoft will eat it up and blow the Wii away just like the Nintendo 64 and the GameCube.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

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They can go solo and they have, but to win the console war they need 3rd party support in addition to the 1st party games.



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rubido said:

No! They could not have done it. Even though I love Nintendo made games, I wouldn't touch such a system with a long pole. That is the reason I didn't touch the GameCube with a long pole. It is disappointing to be on a console without their games... but better than lack of variety.

And they didn't go solo with the cube or the 64. A true solo would be completely impossible. Why do you think they are running around trying to get third party support? Because they learned that they can't go solo.


 Why do people contradict themselves? How can you say they couldn't and then point to the gamecube as an example?  The gamecube is probably one of the best examples of them going it alone.  Sure you didn't buy the gamecube because of it but it doesn't change the fact that they went it alone and made money.  It isn't the kind of money they wanted to make but they stayed afloat. 

But no you weren't done contradicting yourself, after saying that the reason you didn't touch the gamecube was because they went it alone..you say they didn't go it alone with the cube. I know you are trying to redefine the discussion by telling everyone your definition of "going it alone" but thats now how this works.

As for Nintendo  running around for 3rd party support, I have heard people complain they are clamming up on third parties not running around looking for them.  The fact is that all of these 3rd party deals happen behind closed doors so nobody really knows if Nintendo is scrambling for 3rd party devs or if they are playing hard to get.  People are just talking out of their arse.

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I hate vista enough that I wouldn't even buy Wiindows Vista =P

@ckmlb,

/agree 



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Actually, the ability to survive going solo seemes to have been a major basis for the Wii. Nintendo made a system that not only provided a new experience, but also allowed for cheap and easy development.

Even if third parties completely shunned the Wii, Nintendo would be able to count on it's traditional Nintendo games, training games, Wii series and Virtual Console to ensure a system that outsold and out profited the Cube. If Nintendo did go it alone with the Wii, NA and Euro sales would probably be simillarily anemic to the gamecubes, but Japan's sales would be quite, quite high.



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Sqrl said:
rubido said:


Why do people contradict themselves? How can you say they couldn't and then point to the gamecube as an example? The gamecube is probably one of the best examples of them going it alone. Sure you didn't buy the gamecube because of it but it doesn't change the fact that they went it alone and made money. It isn't the kind of money they wanted to make but they stayed afloat.

But no you weren't done contradicting yourself, after saying that the reason you didn't touch the gamecube was because they went it alone..you say they didn't go it alone with the cube. I know you are trying to redefine the discussion by telling everyone your definition of "going it alone" but thats now how this works.

As for Nintendo running around for 3rd party support, I have heard people complain they are clamming up on third parties not running around looking for them. The fact is that all of these 3rd party deals happen behind closed doors so nobody really knows if Nintendo is scrambling for 3rd party devs or if they are playing hard to get. People are just talking out of their arse.

@Game_Boy,

I hate vista enough that I wouldn't even buy Wiindows Vista =P

@ckmlb,

/agree


Nintendo didn't go solo with the gamecube. There was some third party support. I didn't touch it because it wasn't enough support.

About Nintendo going after third party support, it was an interview with Iwata some time back. This was before the wii launched. Iwata stated that they learned that they needed third party support. This was mainly due to another idea that he mentioned. He said that profit alone wasn't going to take them very long if the cash circulation was low compared to it. Nowadays, people talk about third parties going after nintendo. Do you think they were going after nintendo before the wii launched? Who do you think was going after each other then?

 Does anyone have a link to this interview? Kind of old...