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Fumanchu on 29 November 2008
amirnetz said:
whatever said:
amirnetz said:
whatever said:
Why are we excluding Japan? Especially FFXIII, where it will sell 1-2 million units in week 1.

Fair question. The reason why Japan-only exclusivity is excluded is because we are trying to track global trends and Japan is just too small on its own to affect the global behavior (less than 5% of the weekly sales of the 360 + PS3) .

 

Fair enough.  My point was that this does not apply to FFXIII where it will sell as much in Japan as in the other regions.

 

Yes, but in this thread we attempt to evaluate the HW platform success based on 3rd party support. Not the software sales of those titles.

 

I've got to second his point on this one.  I believe this game to sell significant HW numbers not to be ignored in a dwindling HD gaming region.  Not sure if it's exclusivity is bound by contract but Sony will do it's best to push this game which means bundles = more HW sales.  It may even usher in a wave of local support depending on critical/commercial success.

 



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amirnetz on 29 November 2008
Fumanchu said:

I've got to second his point on this one.  I believe this game to sell significant HW numbers not to be ignored in a dwindling HD gaming region.  Not sure if it's exclusivity is bound by contract but Sony will do it's best to push this game which means bundles = more HW sales.  It may even usher in a wave of local support depending on critical/commercial success. 

Even if it becomes a major hit, Japan is still just 5% of the WW market. It is not going to change anything significant in the global picture.

 



Prediction made on 11/1/2008:

Q4 2008: 27M xbox LTD, 20M PS3 LTD . 2009 sales: 11M xbox,  9M PS3

BKK2 on 29 November 2008
e likamirnetz said:
Fumanchu said:

I've got to second his point on this one.  I believe this game to sell significant HW numbers not to be ignored in a dwindling HD gaming region.  Not sure if it's exclusivity is bound by contract but Sony will do it's best to push this game which means bundles = more HW sales.  It may even usher in a wave of local support depending on critical/commercial success. 

Even if it becomes a major hit, Japan is still just 5% of the WW market. It is not going to change anything significant in the global picture.

 

More like 16%:

 



amirnetz on 29 November 2008
BKK2 said:
e likamirnetz said:

Even if it becomes a major hit, Japan is still just 5% of the WW market. It is not going to change anything significant in the global picture. 

More like 16%: 

No. Look at the HD Consoles sales (PS3+360) for the last month (not last year) and you'll see that it is about 5% (actually a bit less).

 



Prediction made on 11/1/2008:

Q4 2008: 27M xbox LTD, 20M PS3 LTD . 2009 sales: 11M xbox,  9M PS3

Fumanchu on 29 November 2008

360 adds:

Huxley
Dead Island
You're In the Movies
The Tale of Despereaux





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amirnetz on 29 November 2008
Fumanchu said:
360 adds:

Huxley
Dead Island
You're In the Movies
The Tale of Despereaux

Thanks. "You're in the movies" is published by Microsoft so it is out. The rest gets in.

 



Prediction made on 11/1/2008:

Q4 2008: 27M xbox LTD, 20M PS3 LTD . 2009 sales: 11M xbox,  9M PS3

BKK2 on 29 November 2008
amirnetz said:
BKK2 said:
e likamirnetz said:

Even if it becomes a major hit, Japan is still just 5% of the WW market. It is not going to change anything significant in the global picture. 

More like 16%: 

No. Look at the HD Consoles sales (PS3+360) for the last month (not last year) and you'll see that it is about 5% (actually a bit less).

 

Maybe for the 360. For PS3 Japan is about 15% of it's Global sales, inline with Japan's overall market share. Anyway, it seems pretty clear that the reason you wish to ignore Japan is because of 360's negligible sales there.

 



amirnetz on 29 November 2008

The Current Standings...

360 3rd Party Exclusives:

  1. Start Ocean 4
  2. The Last Remnant
  3. Kill All Humans
  4. Left 4 Dead
  5. C&C Red Alert
  6. Splinter cell conviction.
  7. Huxley
  8. Dead Island
  9. The Tales of Despereaux

PS3 3rd Party Exclsuive:

  1. Valkyria Chronicals
  2. FF XIII VS.
  3. Quantom Theory
  4. Yakuza 3
  5. Disgaea 3 (PAL only)


Prediction made on 11/1/2008:

Q4 2008: 27M xbox LTD, 20M PS3 LTD . 2009 sales: 11M xbox,  9M PS3

Fumanchu on 29 November 2008
amirnetz said:
Fumanchu said:
360 adds:

Huxley
Dead Island
You're In the Movies
The Tale of Despereaux

Thanks. "You're in the movies" is published by Microsoft so it is out. The rest gets in.

 

Not codemasters??

http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/930/930443p1.html

 



amirnetz on 29 November 2008
BKK2 said:
amirnetz said:

No. Look at the HD Consoles sales (PS3+360) for the last month (not last year) and you'll see that it is about 5% (actually a bit less). 

Maybe for the 360. For PS3 Japan is about 15% of it's Global sales, inline with Japan's overall market share. Anyway, it seems pretty clear that the reason you wish to ignore Japan is because of 360's negligible sales there.

Even for the PS3 Japan is currently only 7% of the sales on a good week (17K in Japan out of 240K WW). So 360 or PS3, Japan is just too small to affect the WW trends. And I am not looking at the fairly recent weeks where the PS3 was as low as 4K.

To be fair, historically Japan used to be relatively a much console larger market than it is today. But the rest of the world grew well and Japan is shrinking. Right now, Japan is not a factor.

 



Prediction made on 11/1/2008:

Q4 2008: 27M xbox LTD, 20M PS3 LTD . 2009 sales: 11M xbox,  9M PS3