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BrainBoxLtd said:
RolStoppable said:
KichiVerde said:

True.  PC games in many ways were superior to the Nintendo, and home consoles.  I know. Ive played PC games starting with Atari and floppy disks (Archon, BurgerTime, Wavy Navy, etc.) and havent stopped since. But for arguments sake Im talking about console gaming here, specifically the 7th generation.  And that makes me think of something else. MS and to a lesser extent Sony, have made strides at bridging the gap between console and PC gaming. Another area Wii has failed.

And that's precisely why so many people like the Wii.

Defintely one of the reasons I like it.

 

I concur.  If I wanted a Gaming PC, I would have built one by now.

 



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leo-j said:
Well they lost me a huge nintendo fanboy, and a hardcore gamer.

That's it for me too. Things may change with Wii-2, though.

 



 

 

 

 

 

Heh, just because one person spends $160 on games a month doesn't make them more signifigant than the other three people who pay $100 a month each on games.

^_^

Kids know what they want, their wants help them develop what they like.

'Casual' in this usage is reffering to the equivical of children within gaming experience as children are a certain consumer. This is the wrong word for the right relation in content.

Just like anyone inexperienced: experience comes with participation and time.

As for the experienced... or 'hardcore' these elitist should learn to embrace anothers opinion.

Elitists are like Police Officers, or moderators on forum boards, they feel they have a right to say something or do something because theirs job entails this. after all where would we be without them, they are the barrier or what is bad and encourage what is good in the background.

Understanding how this works; the assumption of hypocracy over hypocracy is enigmatic to me, maybe someone smarter should work on that as a hobby.



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SmokedHostage said:
BrainBoxLtd said:
RolStoppable said:
KichiVerde said:

True.  PC games in many ways were superior to the Nintendo, and home consoles.  I know. Ive played PC games starting with Atari and floppy disks (Archon, BurgerTime, Wavy Navy, etc.) and havent stopped since. But for arguments sake Im talking about console gaming here, specifically the 7th generation.  And that makes me think of something else. MS and to a lesser extent Sony, have made strides at bridging the gap between console and PC gaming. Another area Wii has failed.

And that's precisely why so many people like the Wii.

Defintely one of the reasons I like it.

 

I concur.  If I wanted a Gaming PC, I would have built one by now.

 

Damn right. I like the Wii because it isn't trying to be a PC. It's a console!



bdbdbd said:
@Esa-Petteri: Well, that's your problem. For me, Wii was the only option.

Then don't say such things as "For those of us who are older, Wii offers so much more than the HD consoles.".  Say "for me". Unless you are such a snobcore that you do that on purpose.



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Gamerace said:
@ kichiverde - Please don't catagorize all us old timers as graphic whores. For myself, many others on this site and for many of my friends (all late 30's and up) Wii is the system that has either brought us back into console gaming or the one we prefer.

And for those that are, as always, PC is the way to go. No console, ever has had graphics that can beat a PC.

 

Same here.  If it wasn't for Wii I would have left gaming this gen.

OT:  People need to cut Nintendo some slack - they've realeased a ton of games this gen and they've been top quality at that.



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There are many different things to enjoy in life.

People are not required to like only kind of music, or book, or TV show, or movie, or play.

Yet in video games, the people want to divide everything into "hard core" and "casual." Then video game enthusiasts wonder why their industry does not get taken seriously, even though it is bigger than almost every form of entertainment in revenue terms.

The discourse by IGN proves that those who report in the video game industry are stuck in a one-genre model that has become outmoded. For every person that Nintendo may have "lost" -- it has gained two to 10 new customers.

Thus, its DOA console is on the verge of taking 50 percent market share and its attach rate is roughly the same as the other console released at the same time. So there are more than enough people buying the Wii and they are buying games. Thus, if you are Nintendo, you make money -- which is the object of a business.

Nintendo stopped playing the same game as MS and Sony because it could not win. It is playing its own game and making money and beating its competitors.

To go back to the earlier analogy, Nintendo could no longer compete playing just alternative rock, so it mixed in some children's tunes and became a powerhouse. In other words, They Might be Giants.


Finally, remember we are just two years into the cycle and Nintendo has released a Mario, a Zelda, a Metroid, a Brawl, a Kart, and a Wario (platformer) for the Wii. (It has also released only one Mario party, two Mario sports, and a Warioware) These numbers compare favorably to the GC at the same point in time or even throughout its lifespan.

Plus, a Pikmin, second Zelda, and second Mario are under development (a second Mario would be the first time since SNES/SFC that there have been more than one lead Mario games on a console -- not counting Luigi's Mansion).

So Nintendo is working. The franchises people are clamoring for, some have not been on a consoles since the NES/Famicom days. So some expectations of Nintendo are just plain unrealistic.

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PS -- They Might Be Giants is an alternative rock band which also does children's music for Disney.



      


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to be fair i agree with this article there hasnt been a really good hardcore game since mario galaxy, brawl was pitiful in comparison to the brilliant melee, but why should nintendo change this winning formula afterall there a bsuiness they wont be probably be making losses if they focused to much on hardcore games casual is where the bulk of the money.



mike_intellivision said:

Finally, remember we are just two years into the cycle and Nintendo has released a Mario, a Zelda, a Metroid, a Brawl, a Kart, and a Wario (platformer) for the Wii. (It has also released only one Mario party, two Mario sports, and a Warioware) These numbers compare favorably to the GC at the same point in time or even throughout its lifespan.

 

 How many times we have told that to every wii hater and yet they just respond in the most childish way ever? Is absurd. It seems that the wii is damned if they do and damned if they don't. The wii is damned because we won't see a triple A game from Nintendo in 4 months?! How on earth that can be possible? I am getting tired of these arguments.

I prefer Nintendo to take its time with their games and release them when they are ready instead of a yearly game that decreases in quality (like the EA sports games Dx ). Besides, I think is a good oportynity to the lazy 3d parties to make games and stop the "boo hoo only nintendo games sales on nintendo consoles boo hoo" stupid crying..But they didn't, and they are just proving how elitist and pathetic they become.

 They are ridiculous. Like it or not, Nintendo is doing things great. Maybe not the way we would love but great nonetheless. Besides, like many said before, they seem to say that hardcore=halo/gears of war/metal gear solid/GTA fan which never EVER liked Nintendo in the first place.

Hipocrites.



Esa-Petteri said:
bdbdbd said:
@Esa-Petteri: Well, that's your problem. For me, Wii was the only option.

Then don't say such things as "For those of us who are older, Wii offers so much more than the HD consoles.". Say "for me". Unless you are such a snobcore that you do that on purpose.

Actually, KichiVerde made a generalization about older gamers first.  Why aren't you going off on him?  Is it because you both share the hobby of trolling on Nintendo?  

 



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