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famousringo on 20 November 2008
kunaixhaku said:
and they're impressed of this despite being ahead by 1 yr right? just sad

 

I think what's supposed to be impressive is that they're outselling PS3 right now, not that they were outselling it in 2005...



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GTAIV08 on 20 November 2008

unless sony do a price cut, the ps3 is going to be crushed by every other console in the market, funny thing is sony can completly turn the tables back around with a price cut of their own but saying that not too much credit is going to go to microsoft, after all the 360 is under half the price of the ps3. which makes the ps3 numbers more impressive looking at the price. i dont think sony will cut the price though. i think they will just take it and then cut the price next year.



CrazzyMan on 20 November 2008

Hard to believe,
will wait till mroe data from GFK will come,
for now it`s just an estimates after all,
everything may change as new data will be available. :)

Anyway, PS3 is still at 400 euro, while x360 is selling at 240.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

DTG on 20 November 2008

UK =/= Europe. MS needs some classes on geography.



Shadowblind on 20 November 2008

So? They're happy that they finally are getting some sales. Let em enjoy it, they cut they're price, they deserve some more sales.



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Smashed on 20 November 2008

Oh.. Seem's like people have forgot, Remember when Sony was destroying them in Europe, Week after week, month after month?



Shadowblind on 20 November 2008
Smashed said:
Oh.. Seem's like people have forgot, Remember when Sony was destroying them in Europe, Week after week, month after month?

And when we let Sony fanboys constantly tell everyone that MS is doomed in the area? Aren't the 360 fanboys allowed to have their moment too?

 



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Smashed on 20 November 2008
Shadowblind said:
Smashed said:
Oh.. Seem's like people have forgot, Remember when Sony was destroying them in Europe, Week after week, month after month?

And when we let Sony fanboys constantly tell everyone that MS is doomed in the area? Aren't the 360 fanboys allowed to have their moment too?

 

 

Where in that sentence did I say you weren't allowed to have your "moment"? I was just reminding people incase they forgot.



Alby_da_Wolf on 20 November 2008
FishyJoe said:
libellule said:
FishyJoe said:
ssj12 said:
dolemit3 said:
ssj12 said:
so what happens next year when Sony drops the price?

MSFT will wait for a few months and then drop the price too.

 

 

can they afford it?

 

Well, if you look at the balance sheets then they are in a better position to do so than Sony. Sony is going to get crushed this holiday season, not just from the PS3 but just about everything they sell.

 

 

come on, they are still making money on most of their bussness and so far, PS3 is selling even more than their own expectation also, a price cut is a lot more effective when u are selling a expensive item a price cut on the xbox360 will be less effective : in a way : it is already very cheap. While on PS3, considering the brandname, the BR player and the exclusives games ...

 

So far is the key... So far meant before the total economic collapse.

If you hadn't noticed, the economy has melted to into a steaming pile of goo since September. Circuit City has declared bankruptcy and Best Buy has said this will season will be nothing short of terrible. And you think this won't be highly detrimental to Sony?

Food and other essential goods producers are still thriving, the crisis is not as widespread as bankers would like us to believe to persuade even the most liberist governments to give them money and have their errors paid at public expense.

A crisis exists, anyway, but it will hit more or less every competitor, for example MS is trying even the most shameful things against ODF (trying to cripple it at ISO committees too, by trying to force it to adapt to interact with OOXML, instead of enforcing the latter's highly criticized flaws and quirks correction) to stop the irresistible decline of Office in the SOHO market, Vista is so hated that it will die young, killed by Windows 7, Linux, although still minority, is doing so well on cheaper subnotebook to make Ballmer's few remaining hair curl and force him to extend XP's life, thinking only Sony is hit is irrealistic.



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FishyJoe on 20 November 2008
Alby_da_Wolf said:

Food and other essential goods producers are still thriving, the crisis is not as widespread as bankers would like us to believe to persuade even the most liberist governments to give them money and have their errors paid at public expense.

A crisis exists, anyway, but it will hit more or less every competitor, for example MS is trying even the most shameful things against ODF (trying to cripple it at ISO committees too, by trying to force it to adapt to interact with OOXML, instead of enforcing the latter's highly criticized flaws and quirks correction) to stop the irresistible decline of Office in the SOHO market, Vista is so hated that it will die young, killed by Windows 7, Linux, although still minority, is doing so well on cheaper subnotebook to make Ballmer's few remaining hair curl and force him to extend XP's life, thinking only Sony is hit is irrealistic.

 

The fact is that consumer electronics will be hit very hard this holiday season, especially at the upper end where Sony sells. Circuit City declared bankruptcy and Best Buy says the consumer electronics segment will take a massive beating.

I'm not saying MS is in the best of shape, but they have a boatload of money and don't have to fight the yen. And  they don't have to rely on consumer electronics sales this winter is a huge plus.