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Resident_Hazard on 24 November 2008
TheSource said:

Some of those numbers are wrong...

Atari had a few rivals that topped 10m (Intellivision I'd wager).

PC Engine was pretty successful in Japan and did ok elsewhere.

Genesis is complicated because I'm pretty sure you can still buy it in portions of South America where they still make it. So the officially tally is 30m...but...I'd wager the company that sells in South America isn't included in the total. Still, South America isn't a big market. But Genesis could easily be in the low 30ms if you include that.

PS2, if you check out our stickied "official big three quarterly results" thread has shipped about 133m "to date" (which is through Sept 2008). Sony did at one point claim it had shipped 140m, but BKK2 and I came to the conclusion it was a typo or a spoken mistake, based on shipments of about 120m through December 2006 in many other sources, ~10m through December 2007 according to a press conference Sony held, and then about 4m through September 2008.

PS2 will certaintly reach 140m shipped, but it isn't quite there yet guys.

 

 I recalled Intellivision selling 10-11 million and ColecoVision selling 3 million.  I checked Wikipedia and all of a sudden, Intellivision says 3 million and ColecoVision has no sales numbers.  Previously, on Wikipedia, it was roughly the numbers I listed. 

I remember this because I was surprised how well Mattel did against Atari.  The "big 3" of the second generation were Atari 2600, Mattel Intellivision, and ColecoVision.  ColecoVision's big plus came because then-arcade hit Donkey Kong was an exclusive pack-in title.



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Resident_Hazard on 24 November 2008
NSS7 said:
I hate this generation because i have to buy PS3 (mgs4,Gow3,FFXVIII,WKC) and Xbox360 (TOV,IU,TLR,LO) to enjoy all types of games. Last gen i only own PS2.

 

 

Nobody said you had to buy a PS3 and an Xbox360. 

And you didn't get everything last gen only owning a PS2.  You missed Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Smash Bros, Pikmin, Halo, Halo 2, Fable, Crimson Skies, Dead or Alive 3, PGR, Knights of the Old Republic, Elder Scrolls III, Doom3, Half-Life 2, Mario Kart: DD, Zelda: Wind Waker, Rogue Leader, Rebel Strike, Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil Remake, Shenmue I & II, Soul Calibur, Typing of the Dead, House of the Dead III, House of the Dead 2, Virtua Fighter 3, Phantasy Star Online, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Chu-Chu Rocket, and of course Seaman to name a few.

 

Also, I'm not sure Final Fantasy 18 is coming to the PS3.  Anything's possible of course, but I have some serious doubts.



mike_intellivision on 24 November 2008
Resident_Hazard said:
TheSource said:

Some of those numbers are wrong...

Atari had a few rivals that topped 10m (Intellivision I'd wager).

PC Engine was pretty successful in Japan and did ok elsewhere.

Genesis is complicated because I'm pretty sure you can still buy it in portions of South America where they still make it. So the officially tally is 30m...but...I'd wager the company that sells in South America isn't included in the total. Still, South America isn't a big market. But Genesis could easily be in the low 30ms if you include that.

PS2, if you check out our stickied "official big three quarterly results" thread has shipped about 133m "to date" (which is through Sept 2008). Sony did at one point claim it had shipped 140m, but BKK2 and I came to the conclusion it was a typo or a spoken mistake, based on shipments of about 120m through December 2006 in many other sources, ~10m through December 2007 according to a press conference Sony held, and then about 4m through September 2008.

PS2 will certaintly reach 140m shipped, but it isn't quite there yet guys.

 

I recalled Intellivision selling 10-11 million and ColecoVision selling 3 million. I checked Wikipedia and all of a sudden, Intellivision says 3 million and ColecoVision has no sales numbers. Previously, on Wikipedia, it was roughly the numbers I listed.

I remember this because I was surprised how well Mattel did against Atari. The "big 3" of the second generation were Atari 2600, Mattel Intellivision, and ColecoVision. ColecoVision's big plus came because then-arcade hit Donkey Kong was an exclusive pack-in title.

 

The accepted number in classic gaming circles is for the Intellivision is 6M. That was 3M by Mattel and 3M by Intellivision Inc/INTV Inc.

Wikipedia cites the right article: http://classicgaming.gamespy.com/View.php?view=ConsoleMuseum.Detail&id=17&game=9

But the person only reads this: "Despite Mattel's awful marketing, the Intellivision sold over 3 million units."

And missed this: "The company went bankrupt later that year, but had managed to sell three million systems during its run—no small accomplishment in the face of Nintendo's market dominance."

The accepted number for the Colecovision is 6M-7M. It was a competitor of the Atari 2600 and its successor, the Atari 5200, as well as the Intellvision.

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numonex on 05 January 2009

Console generation winners:
1st generation = Commodore 64 ~ 25 million
2nd generation = Atari ~ 30 million
3rd generation = NES ~ 60 million
4th generation = SNES ~ 45 million
5th generation = PSX ~ 105 million
6th generation = PS2 130 million+ (still selling)
7th generation = Wii  45 million +(current generation and Nintendo has already won it)
8th generation = Anyone's guess



Spectrumglr on 05 January 2009
numonex said:

Console generation winners:
1st generation = Commodore 64 ~ 25 million
2nd generation = Atari ~ 30 million
3rd generation = NES ~ 60 million
4th generation = SNES ~ 45 million
5th generation = PSX ~ 105 million
6th generation = PS2 130 million+ (still selling)
7th generation = Wii  45 million +(current generation and Nintendo has already won it)
8th generation = Anyone's guess

 

C64 wasn't a console (ok, the 1st edition actually had a cartridge slot but was rarely used) and came out WELL AFTER the Atari VCS/2600.



2008 year end sales (made in January 2008):

44.2 M 27.1 M 20.8 M

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Kantor on 05 January 2009

The PS3 and 360 will sell more than any other second/third place consoles have ever sold. Both will be well above 50 million by the end of the gen.



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Cueil on 05 January 2009
The Ghost of RubangB said:
We're in the 7th generation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games

Competition is good, but it doesn't exist when you're Nintendo.

 

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