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I did some rudementary math on this a few months back and calculating for the average monthly sales of each system since launch, going until 2010 or 2012 (I don't remember my cut-off point, but I think it was the latter), the Xbox360 would remain in second place, behind the Wii. The brief moments when the PS3 was actually outselling the Xbox360 did not show numbers sufficiently high enough to actually outsell the X360. When I did the calculation, I maintained, theoretically, that the average sales numbers would remain constant (which is unlikely). However, their sales will likely drop off at the same rate (%), and in the end, their total sales weren't far apart. I think they ended in the low 30-million-mark, roughly as far apart as the Xbox and GameCube were, with the PS3 in third. This means that, according to my "averaging" math at the time, the PS3 will outsell both the Xbox and GameCube, but I don't think it caught up with the N64.

I think I posted this over at GameInformer's forum.



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Spankey said:
Dianko said:
Spankey said:
SleepyG said:

What makes people so sure that when Final Fantasy 13 comes out, it will be attached to a PS3?

If I was waiting to purchase a system based on FF13, I would pick the Xbox hands down. Mostly because of the game library and Xbox Live service.

FF13 is coming out for the 360, just in case some of you forgot. ;)

 

not in Japan, in case you forgot ;)

In case you forgot, Japan represents something like 8% of the HD market at the moment. It's just not that relevant.

 

In case you forget, Japan is quite capable of buying multi-million units of major Final Fantasy releases.

Sure, the PS2 sold more units there, but the potential is there to sell at least 1 mil. copies LTD of this game in Japan alone.

Thats a pretty relevant figure.

out of interest:

FF X: 7.95 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought : 3.02 million (38%)

FF X-2: 5.21 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought : 2.41 million (46%)

FFXII: 5.09 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought 2.42 million (47.5%)

Maybe you could argue that this sites data is incorrect, but those numbers seem relatively relevant to me.

 

 

 Those numbers aren't really relevant to your argument, since the PS3 is not the PS2. We've had a number of popular PS2 era franchises that have significantly underperformed in their PS3 releases. FFXIII will be a success. But will it ignite a massive resurgence of the PS3 in Japan? I'm willing to bet no. It will probably end up being one of the lowest selling FF's in Japan, I'm guessing 1.5 million at most. The userbase just isn't there to support sales similar to the 3 PS2 titles. In fact, looking at the fraction of sales coming from Japan, I could see why SE decided to make it multiplatform.



Sony is a business and has to balance price cuts with profits and losses. They are already taking losses on the PS3 but of course components become cheaper and Sony can pass this on to the consumer.

As for advertising both Microsoft and Sony can afford huge sums for their marketing budget. So whoever doesn't market enough or effectively only has themselves to blame.



Dianko said:
Spankey said:

In case you forget, Japan is quite capable of buying multi-million units of major Final Fantasy releases.

Sure, the PS2 sold more units there, but the potential is there to sell at least 1 mil. copies LTD of this game in Japan alone.

Thats a pretty relevant figure.

out of interest:

FF X: 7.95 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought : 3.02 million (38%)

FF X-2: 5.21 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought : 2.41 million (46%)

FFXII: 5.09 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought 2.42 million (47.5%)

Maybe you could argue that this sites data is incorrect, but those numbers seem relatively relevant to me.

 

 

 Those numbers aren't really relevant to your argument, since the PS3 is not the PS2. We've had a number of popular PS2 era franchises that have significantly underperformed in their PS3 releases. FFXIII will be a success. But will it ignite a massive resurgence of the PS3 in Japan? I'm willing to bet no. It will probably end up being one of the lowest selling FF's in Japan, I'm guessing 1.5 million at most. The userbase just isn't there to support sales similar to the 3 PS2 titles. In fact, looking at the fraction of sales coming from Japan, I could see why SE decided to make it multiplatform.

Oh come on, now you're being rediculous.

Final fantasy X (the one that sold the highest here) launched 20 July 2001 in Japan. the PS2 launched on the 4th March 2000 officially in Japan, so the PS 2 had only been out for just over a year in Japan before FFX hit.

I think you'll find the numbers of PS3 consoles are roughly half of what the PS2's were at the time in Japan(4.8 million vs 2.49 million)

If you half any of those numbers in my previous post (you didn't bother to read the percentages sold in Japan, did you? you naughty boy!) you still end up with over a million for each title.

A relevant amount, I'll say again.

 



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Spankey said:
Dianko said:
Spankey said:
 

In case you forget, Japan is quite capable of buying multi-million units of major Final Fantasy releases.

Sure, the PS2 sold more units there, but the potential is there to sell at least 1 mil. copies LTD of this game in Japan alone.

Thats a pretty relevant figure.

out of interest:

FF X: 7.95 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought : 3.02 million (38%)

FF X-2: 5.21 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought : 2.41 million (46%)

FFXII: 5.09 million units WW LTD of that Japan bought 2.42 million (47.5%)

Maybe you could argue that this sites data is incorrect, but those numbers seem relatively relevant to me.

 

 

 Those numbers aren't really relevant to your argument, since the PS3 is not the PS2. We've had a number of popular PS2 era franchises that have significantly underperformed in their PS3 releases. FFXIII will be a success. But will it ignite a massive resurgence of the PS3 in Japan? I'm willing to bet no. It will probably end up being one of the lowest selling FF's in Japan, I'm guessing 1.5 million at most. The userbase just isn't there to support sales similar to the 3 PS2 titles. In fact, looking at the fraction of sales coming from Japan, I could see why SE decided to make it multiplatform.

Oh come on, now you're being rediculous.

Final fantasy X (the one that sold the highest here) launched 20 July 2001 in Japan. the PS2 launched on the 4th March 2000 officially in Japan, so the PS 2 had only been out for just over a year in Japan before FFX hit.

I think you'll find the numbers of PS3 consoles are roughly half of what the PS2's were at the time in Japan(4.8 million vs 2.49 million)

If you half any of those numbers in my previous post (you didn't bother to read the percentages sold in Japan, did you? you naughty boy!) you still end up with over a million for each title.

A relevant amount, I'll say again.

 

Where did I dispute that a million wasn't a significant number? 1.5 million on the PS3, barring some unexpected resurgence, would be a tremendous success in Japan, and arguably not an unreasonable dropoff for the series given the platforms sales there. What I'm saying is it's still not the PS2, and one shouldn't expect a PS2 style performance out of FFXIII. I don't even remember where this began. Something to do with the relevance of Japan for HD gaming and FFXIII, but I'm too lazy to look.

 



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im so high and well PS3 cant catch ^ or pass with all that cuz ur missing 1 thing.......... "drumroll plz'





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It will probably end up being one of the lowest selling FF's in Japan, I'm guessing 1.5 million at most. The userbase just isn't there to support sales similar to the 3 PS2 titles.

Square-Enix has no faith in FFXIII moving PS3 hardware, that's why they were forced to port it to the 360.



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