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Bodhesatva said:
Legend11 said:
But what's the point in getting a crossfire or sli setup if the super high-end games become few and far between?


Because I really, really like those games that are "few and far between". I like World of Warcraft, Half Life, Half Life 2 and Starcraft better than everything on the 360 and PS3 combined, and I'm not exaggerating. I have quite literally put 200+ days (or 4800 hours of game play) in to Starcraft alone. If these games continue to remain PC exclusive (Starcraft 2 certainly is) or PC centric (as Half Life is), then I would much rather pay 500 a year to keep my rig up to date than to play the 360/PS3 games I personally believe are much less fun.

But that's my opinion. I'm not saying you should agree. You asked, I answered.

 


The system requirements for World of Warcraft, Half-Life, Half-Life 2, and Starcraft are very low.  In fact Blizzard and Valve are two developers that I find make games that play very well on medium range systems.  Besides Crysis (and likely Far Cry 2) can you think of any other games that would be a lot better on an sli or crossfire setup as compared to say one 8800GTX?  I imagine that even a 8800GTS (640MB) will be more than enough for 99% of the games coming out in the next few years.

As for your opinion I also like games on the PC as well as games on 360, I mean I'm very sure Mass Effect will be one of my favorite games this year if not my favorite and I know Banjo Kazooie 3 will very likely be one of my favorites next year.  I think all three consoles will have enough games in their lifespan to justify their cost.



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reason why the requirements for starcraft is very low,,,the game is 10YEARS OLD....


developing games for the medium Range systems NOW(not "medium" at release)= more people can PLAY THE DAMN GAME= higher sales=more profit

MMO's

everquest 2
world of warcraft

everquest2 "future proofed" their engine so much so that the current high end machine- at release- could BARELY get more than 20fps in cities...the average machine was getting less than that- even at the lowest settings.

"now" current mainstream games do better, since the tech got better

world of warcraft- high end machines played wow great
main stream machines palyed wow great
low end played wow good

on "all" machines wow was a mmo that could be played- i've played wow on a machine with an nvidia 4200 card...(newer card burned out-replacement was on order) i PLAY wow on a notebook with an ati 9700 video card(saturdays while the wife is at work- i am in living room with the kids)

wow currently- in the us only- has at least 7x the population of eq2...



lenardo said:
developing games for the medium Range systems NOW(not "medium" at release)= more people can PLAY THE DAMN GAME= higher sales=more profit

That was main point of the article...



Legend11 said:
Bodhesatva said:
Legend11 said:
But what's the point in getting a crossfire or sli setup if the super high-end games become few and far between?


Because I really, really like those games that are "few and far between". I like World of Warcraft, Half Life, Half Life 2 and Starcraft better than everything on the 360 and PS3 combined, and I'm not exaggerating. I have quite literally put 200+ days (or 4800 hours of game play) in to Starcraft alone. If these games continue to remain PC exclusive (Starcraft 2 certainly is) or PC centric (as Half Life is), then I would much rather pay 500 a year to keep my rig up to date than to play the 360/PS3 games I personally believe are much less fun.

But that's my opinion. I'm not saying you should agree. You asked, I answered.

 


The system requirements for World of Warcraft, Half-Life, Half-Life 2, and Starcraft are very low. In fact Blizzard and Valve are two developers that I find make games that play very well on medium range systems. Besides Crysis (and likely Far Cry 2) can you think of any other games that would be a lot better on an sli or crossfire setup as compared to say one 8800GTX? I imagine that even a 8800GTS (640MB) will be more than enough for 99% of the games coming out in the next few years.

As for your opinion I also like games on the PC as well as games on 360, I mean I'm very sure Mass Effect will be one of my favorite games this year if not my favorite and I know Banjo Kazooie 3 will very likely be one of my favorites next year. I think all three consoles will have enough games in their lifespan to justify their cost.


Half Life 1/2 definitely required a 1000+ dollar computer when they were released, which makes them more than twice as expsensive as the 360/PS3. Not Crysis requirements by any means, but still substantial. I don't think we'll start frequently seeing Crysis-level graphics on PC for at least a couple more years. Crysis is really an aberration: usually it takes a couple of years to see PC games that really noticably outstrip new consoles. With Crysis, we're seeing it within a year of the release of the PS3, which is already a very expensive console. So I agree with almost all of this!

Instead, what I am saying is that the few high-end games that are tailored specifically for the PC have historically been my absolute favorites. With Crysis and Starcraft 2 upcoming (I'll bet you good money that you'd need to pay 1400+ dollars right now for a computer that can effectively run SC II without slowdown), I see that trend continuing. 



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I spent $400 dollars to play Half Life 2 and that included the game and a new computer, I also played Doom 3 on it at full settings no problem but of course both were under Linux so that could have been the difference. I guess what I am really trying to say is that there are ways to cut down costs on PC gaming if you just do a little research.



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Yo guys, direct x10 isnt the only way to get crisis type graphcis... theres somethign new coming to the ps3 exclusively I will start a thread about it.



 

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