scottie said:
Grahamhsu said:
@Scottie do you have proof that the D2 world is expanding? Have you played D2 as long as I have because if so than you can not deny that Diablo 2 is a dying game (in terms of users). Give me a link for proof that D2 is still in the top 20. And even if it is see these points.
1. If you read my OP you'd realize when I said I was upset people were banned for multiple cd keys so they can play more characters by themselves that would also mean sales for D2 can't be counted accurately. There are many people that have over 10 cd keys, D2Loader is an extremely popular program in D2. So we have no idea how many real new players are joining even with sales data.
2. If your using amount of accounts growing as information that doesn't count as proper information either. I myself had 10 accounts at one point and I know people that had over 100 accounts. When Blizzard says 350,000 accounts were closed that doesn't mean 350,000 players were banned. I'm guessing it's more like 100,000 players. Check d2jsp forums you'll find many people bitching about how they lost over 100 accounts worth of shit that took them 8 years to farm.
3. When you say why would they sabotage this, take this fact into account. D2Loader has been around for a while around 2006. Warden (Battletnet's anti-cheating program) was also developed at that time. At the time Warden could ALREADY sense who was using D2Loader and who was not. If you know how Warden works, you can't say well maybe they just didn't program it to figure out who was doing what. NO! Warden is similar to spyware, it actually scans your D2 folder, Warden also scans your .dll to tell if you've modified the game code at all. However, despite many ban waves that occurred during 2006 and 2007, Blizzard never banned anyone for using the D2Loader, so here's a question back at you, why would they ban D2Loader now?
Think about it, who plays D2 the most, a person with D2Loader or someone without. Obviously anyone who has D2Loader plays Diablo hardcore (not the actual hardcore mode) and these same people will probably continue to play Diablo 2 for years and years. Blizzard isn't as worried about other players because they know since they're not as hardcore they'll probably just move onto another game.
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I did not say that the D2 world was expanding, i said that lots of people are buying the game.
I present as proof the VGChartz thread detailing NPD PC sales for September 2008
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=45753
"So we have no idea how many real new players are joining even with sales data."
I don't care how many users are joining, nor do Blizzard. They care about how many people are buying the game, and the answer is, alot. Destroying the game's online would lower these sales and thus that is not their intention
"If your using amount of accounts growing as information that doesn't count as proper information either."
I'm not, NPD sales = sales (in the USA)
why would they ban D2Loader now?
Because up until now they either did not have the resources to do it, or did not think it negatively impacted upon the company, or the people who bought the game. Now they do.
"Now tell me my OP still doesn't make sense."
Your OP still doesn't make sense
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Scottie, you still don't see the point that I've outlined. When 350,000 accounts are banned do you think those people are all going to stop playing D2? On polls at jsp and edgeofnowhere half of those banned players are still going to buy a fresh copy of D2 again. So who's getting money from these bans, Blizzard is because these people are still buying D2.
However guess what, most of the players that are coming back to D2 after being banned are going to be hackers and dupers. Do you see the logic in this? Dupers and Hackers, almost all of them have been banned at least once and they always just buy new copy, so the only information your sales tells me is that Blizzard likes to ban people so they buy new copies of D2 again (is this the kind of company we should support?). Most legit d2Loader players won't come back because they lost so much that it's impossible for them to regain what they had without hacks or dupes.
You obviously didn't even read my post about warden! They have the resources and they've HAD the resources to know who's using D2Loader ever since warden came out. I don't understand why you come to my thread just to try to devalue my ideas that many people on D2 agree with when you yourself know absolutely nothing about D2 and it's community.
