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I don't care about what one Sega guy says right now. Do you see what they have in store for the Wii in 2009?

Nothin' but quality.



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Why are people assuming that purchased games are played games?

Taking the Wii's top selling games, and comparing them to the PS3/360s - which set of games have the higher average playtime?

Millions of people buy monopoly, yet, after a while, they only get it out at Christmas to distract everyone from the fact that they hate each and every member of the family, and the awkward silence must be stopped.



Honestly, there is an element of truth to his claim ...

The difficulty a lot of executives are having with the Wii is that previous consoles were (primarily) used by 1 or 2 members of a household who fell into pretty conventional gamer demographics; the Wii in contrast is being used by most members of a household on some level and many of these people do not fall into conventional gamer demographics.

This means there are many people who play the Wii who do not consider videogames as being a particularly important hobby and may play games in the way that he suggested. At the same time there are also core gamers who use the Wii in (pretty much) the exact same fashion to how XBox 360 or PS3 owners use their system. There is also demographics of Wii gamers who are not that well understood who probably use it in a very different fashion to how any other console is used.



Xen said:
Bodhesatva said:
Xen said:
Bodhesatva said:
Xen said:
Fernando said:
Well... the attach ratio and how well the Wii software sells (a lot lot more than the PS3) proves that that is not true.

=p

In fact, if you take into account the attach ratio of the Wii with that huge install base, compared to the PS3 install base and attach rate, a lot more people are playing the Wii than the PS3.

SW: TFU, Madden '09 told me to say hello. PS3 outsells Wii in software even with its smaller userbase.

There may be exceptions, but the PS3 usually outsells the Wii in software... unless the software we're talking about is shovelware. So far, not many quality games sold well on Wii. Compare to PS3... and your statement is stright from dreamland.

 


 

This is factually incorrect, Xen. The Wii sells more software even considering the PS3's install base, not in spite of it: that is, if the Wii and PS3 had exactly identical install bases, the Wii would still have more software sold. The people arguing software sales are correct. The Wii has a better attach rate than the PS3 in America and Japan (and at times Europe, depending on who has just had a big game come out). If the Wii is a machine people only pull out occasionally, why does it sell so much software?

How is it that VGC numbers disagree with you though? recent numbers, that is. Not '07 ones. And not Mario Kart and Wii"-" numbers. Purely quality third party software.

 

 

Ah ha ha, so this is now a "quality third party" discussion? Please. This is a discussion of software in general, not "Software minus Nintendo software. Also games like Carnival Games. Also no Mario and Sonic." Don't move the goalposts. The question is: "Does the Wii sell software?" The answer is yes, it sells quite a bit, which suggests people aren't letting their Wiis collect dust. If people weren't using their Wiis, why are they buying so much software for it?

VGC reaches the same conclusion that the FRs do: the Wii's attach rate is better than the PS3's.

The number of factors involved if we consider all the games the Wii sells is too much, take for example the huge "extened userbase" the Wii has. ATM, I can't be bothered to discuss it. See you at attach ratios at the end of '09. Comparing the two then would be much more fair.

 

It would be much more fair if god hadn't decided to make you an imbecile.

 



SamuelRSmith said:
Why are people assuming that purchased games are played games?

Taking the Wii's top selling games, and comparing them to the PS3/360s - which set of games have the higher average playtime?

Millions of people buy monopoly, yet, after a while, they only get it out at Christmas to distract everyone from the fact that they hate each and every member of the family, and the awkward silence must be stopped.

 

Who cares how much they play the game as long as they paid for it?



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After I read the article I understood that he meant that the wii is played but people of all ages, not the typical 15-35 year old males. Of course, the biggest the audience the harder to please. I never read that he meant that the wii was as "lame" as a board game, he was talking more about demographics.



famousringo said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Why are people assuming that purchased games are played games?

Taking the Wii's top selling games, and comparing them to the PS3/360s - which set of games have the higher average playtime?

Millions of people buy monopoly, yet, after a while, they only get it out at Christmas to distract everyone from the fact that they hate each and every member of the family, and the awkward silence must be stopped.

 

Who cares how much they play the game as long as they paid for it?

 

 Yes, but this Sega geezer was going on about it being an expensive board game. And I was just saying that, like board games, just because something's been purchased, it doesn't necessarily mean it's being played.



Fernando said:
Well... the attach ratio and how well the Wii software sells (a lot lot more than the PS3) proves that that is not true.

=p

In fact, if you take into account the attach ratio of the Wii with that huge install base, compared to the PS3 install base and attach rate, a lot more people are playing the Wii than the PS3.

 

The SONY hate is strong within you...



4 ≈ One

SamuelRSmith,

you took this board game comparison a bit too far. you are taking what the sega guy said about when people play their games as fact. he is no way backed up his statement with any evidence. the wii is not a boardgame. so using his statement to claim that wii games have less average playtime than hd games is just stupid. you're trying to base your made up stats off of one person's opinion. thats like me saying that snes sold the most software of any system ever because its my favorite system. a made up stat based on an opinion.

some people definitely don't play their wii a whole lot. just like any system some people buy it and don't play it a lot. although for the wii that number is probably a bit higher precisely because it is selling to non-gamers, just the type of people who got a system cuz they played a couple great games on it but they aren't gamers so they are only gonna get a new game every so often when they happen to see one that catches their eye. my parents got a wii, having never owned a system before, and they bought madden '07 and link's crossbow training for it. they've both played wii sports a ton and my mom played a lot of link's CT, they never really played madden. but they haven't played any games in a while other than when me or my brother come home because they are non gamers so they played those games quite a bit for a few months but then haven't picked up a title since because they don't pay attention to what games come out. but, they would have never picked up a 360 or ps3 because those systems have no games that they would even buy in the first place.

but on the flip side you have a lot of wii gamers are hardcore gamers or kids who not only play the same type of games that the hd systems cater to, but they also have these wii sport-like casual games that are really fun and great multiplayer games so these gamers play their normal amount plus play extra with non gamers.

so i'd say for some people yeah they barely play the wii, but those are also the people who bring down the attach rate. while the rest of wii gamers which is probably higher than the install base of either of the hd systems probably buys lots of games and plays them regularly, if not more often than people with just hd systems because the wii has more than just really short single player games and a few great online games. afterall, how much playtime do you think a standard fare high budget, high selling, less than 10 hour hd game is gonna get. not nearly as much time as the wii's many party games which can be played over and over again and don't lost their fun after they've been played for 10-20 hours. only the hd games that are really good online games can probably match the average good wii party game in terms of average playtime. i know i haven't played a game as much as i played wii sports since probably goldeneye or maybe mario kart:DD.



end of '08 predictions: wii - 43 million,  360 - 25 million, ps3 - 20 million

 

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First of all, the Wii sell more software than the PS3 NOT including Wii Sports (i just want to clarify this point)

Now.. Damnit people read the interview!!



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