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Zucas said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Zucas said:
Haha well brand is on Halo's sided. I mean KZ comes from a sublime franchise on the PS2 and PSP with a better hyped 7th gen counterpart while Halo Wars comes from a huge Xbox property that has sold loads. I mean it's in favor of Halo Wars as far as I'm concerned.

 

Define sublime, because I think you confused it with another descriptive that begins with the letter "S."

Is that all you got out of that post.  It's more than likely used incorrectly considering sublime means outstanding.  But there is nothing more that pisses me off then people who not only read one part of my post but do it because of a grammatical error. Don't correct me on my grammar because I know it's bad and read the post.  There's not to many things that piss me off but that's one of them... don't nitpick my posts especially when it comes to grammar because I'm hoping your smart enough to know what I mean and if your not just ask.  Don't be snarky. 

 

Now subpar was probably a better word if you are really having this many issues.

 

I didn't correct your grammar. I read the rest of your post. I just didn't have anything to say about it. However, I did want to comment on your incorrect use of the word "sublime" just to clear the record.

...and as a reference for the future, when you do state things that are kind of discrediting, like "Killzone was sublime" early in a long thread, mistake or no, some people are gonna stop reading and you can't blame them.

 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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Jackson50 said:
Zucas said:Is that all you got out of that post. It's more than likely used incorrectly considering sublime means outstanding. But there is nothing more that pisses me off then people who not only read one part of my post but do it because of a grammatical error. Don't correct me on my grammar because I know it's bad and read the post. There's not to many things that piss me off but that's one of them... don't nitpick my posts especially when it comes to grammar because I'm hoping your smart enough to know what I mean and if your not just ask. Don't be snarky. Now subpar was probably a better word if you are really having this many issues.

Was your first sentence a statement or a question?

 

A statement... why do you ask?

 



Three factors that nobody has considered.

The first factor is Microsoft will dissolve Ensemble after the release of this title. Were they to have had high hopes for this becoming a franchise they most assuredly would not be obliterating the team responsible. This does not speak to high confidence in either the title or this particular genre on the console.

The second factor dovetails with the first. Microsoft is not going to heavily market this title. Despite the license they must know this is a niche title, and not what Halo fans are specifically looking for. Even Nintendo doesn't heavily market third string Mario titles such as Super Mario Sluggers. Nintendo looks to Mario being on the box selling the title. The same as Microsoft probably hopes Master Chief will sell more copies of a RTS title.

The third factor is the holy trinity for the PS3. Every console has a holy trinity of games decided upon by gamers at launch. The three titles that justify the purchase of a console. For the PS3 it was Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Killzone 2. Oh and do not dump a load of revisionism about Final Fantasy XIII on me. The point is I can think of only one holy trinity game out of all three consoles that did not go totally gang busters. Most of them have sold well in excess of five million. The only exception being Metroid Prime which sold a paltry 1.42 million units. Still that will probably top Halo Wars.

Halo Wars will get a very high average reviews probably over ninety given how well Civilization Revolution was received. I have played Civilization 4, and honestly I felt the console version was painfully watered down. So the reviews will be on par it is good to be a big fish in a small pond, but the sales will be nowhere similar.



craighopkins said:
twesterm said:
Killzone 2 will be the better game with better reviews but Halo Wars will sell better. Much better.

 

 lets hope kz 2 gets better reviws then the first one

 

It could get about the same (maybe slightly better) reviews as Killzone and I bet they still will be better than Halo Wars reviews.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
Zucas said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Zucas said:
Haha well brand is on Halo's sided. I mean KZ comes from a sublime franchise on the PS2 and PSP with a better hyped 7th gen counterpart while Halo Wars comes from a huge Xbox property that has sold loads. I mean it's in favor of Halo Wars as far as I'm concerned.

 

Define sublime, because I think you confused it with another descriptive that begins with the letter "S."

Is that all you got out of that post. It's more than likely used incorrectly considering sublime means outstanding. But there is nothing more that pisses me off then people who not only read one part of my post but do it because of a grammatical error. Don't correct me on my grammar because I know it's bad and read the post. There's not to many things that piss me off but that's one of them... don't nitpick my posts especially when it comes to grammar because I'm hoping your smart enough to know what I mean and if your not just ask. Don't be snarky.

 

Now subpar was probably a better word if you are really having this many issues.

 

I didn't correct your grammar. I read the rest of your post. I just didn't have anything to say about it. However, I did want to comment on your incorrect use of the word "sublime" just to clear the record.

...and as a reference for the future, when you do state things that are kind of discrediting, like "Killzone was sublime" early in a long thread, mistake or no, some people are gonna stop reading and you can't blame them.

 

 

 

If it's a necessity or addiction for you to comment on every grammatical error, then that's your problem so don't make it mine.

And I hope usually I'm talking to some people and not most as most are not the ones I'm trying to talk to on this site.  Those people will take the substance rather than what I may or may not think about Killzone.



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lwhatee said:
flagship said:
The Killzone franchise has barely broken a million units, I think I'll go with Halo Wars.

KZ1 sold 2 m units and it was a BAD GAME

On the Playstation 2, not the much less popular PS3.

Halo wars is an RTS....no one wants RTS

Some people do, that's a generalization.

KZ2 will outsell HALO 3/Gears 2....it is that good a game

Games dont' sell because of how good they are. That said, you don't know how good KZ2 is, you've never played the final copy, because it doesn't exist yet. It probably won't outsell Halo 3, because it's on a console that is more popular in europe and japan, and less popular in FPS land, the US. It's also not nearly as hyped as either of those games, and/or has much more competition.

By that time the difference betweeen PS3 and X360 will be vast

In 3 months?

I dont think x360 will remain in the market after KZ2's launch

You're kidding right?

Nothing on x360 comes remotely close to KZ2 in gameplay as well as graphics

You couldn't possible know that, but in reality, KZ2 is probably just another overhyped shooter.

 

Your post is very full of ignorant propoganda. I think it's best described via red inserts.

Yeah, I got you good. Also remember how wrong you were about Fable 2.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Dodece said:
Three factors that nobody has considered.

The first factor is Microsoft will dissolve Ensemble after the release of this title. Were they to have had high hopes for this becoming a franchise they most assuredly would not be obliterating the team responsible. This does not speak to high confidence in either the title or this particular genre on the console.

The second factor dovetails with the first. Microsoft is not going to heavily market this title. Despite the license they must know this is a niche title, and not what Halo fans are specifically looking for. Even Nintendo doesn't heavily market third string Mario titles such as Super Mario Sluggers. Nintendo looks to Mario being on the box selling the title. The same as Microsoft probably hopes Master Chief will sell more copies of a RTS title.

The third factor is the holy trinity for the PS3. Every console has a holy trinity of games decided upon by gamers at launch. The three titles that justify the purchase of a console. For the PS3 it was Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Killzone 2. Oh and do not dump a load of revisionism about Final Fantasy XIII on me. The point is I can think of only one holy trinity game out of all three consoles that did not go totally gang busters. Most of them have sold well in excess of five million. The only exception being Metroid Prime which sold a paltry 1.42 million units. Still that will probably top Halo Wars.

Halo Wars will get a very high average reviews probably over ninety given how well Civilization Revolution was received. I have played Civilization 4, and honestly I felt the console version was painfully watered down. So the reviews will be on par it is good to be a big fish in a small pond, but the sales will be nowhere similar.

 

How is KZ2 in the holy trinity of PS3 games all of the sudden? The first one was subpar and only a few have touched KZ2. I'd say it's God of War 3.



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Zucas said:

If it's a necessity or addiction for you to comment on every grammatical error, then that's your problem so don't make it mine.

And I hope usually I'm talking to some people and not most as most are not the ones I'm trying to talk to on this site.  Those people will take the substance rather than what I may or may not think about Killzone.

 

Using the wrong word isn't correcting a grammatical error. I was just telling you that you used a wrong word. If you had misspelled it, I wouldn't have said a word. I don't understand why you're so pissed off about it. :P



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Zucas said:
Jackson50 said:
Zucas said:Is that all you got out of that post. It's more than likely used incorrectly considering sublime means outstanding. But there is nothing more that pisses me off then people who not only read one part of my post but do it because of a grammatical error. Don't correct me on my grammar because I know it's bad and read the post. There's not to many things that piss me off but that's one of them... don't nitpick my posts especially when it comes to grammar because I'm hoping your smart enough to know what I mean and if your not just ask. Don't be snarky. Now subpar was probably a better word if you are really having this many issues.

Was your first sentence a statement or a question?

 

A statement... why do you ask?

 

 

He's pointing out your grammatical error...where you didn't use a question mark at the end of your first sentence.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.