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^^@reasonable

people are going nuts over there in metacritics forum,,,,,but the guy who submits the reviews had this to say (before people posted the relation between variety and MS),,,

"I've received a few emails asking why I've started tracking Variety's game reviews, reviews which are not published with scores. I have a couple of thoughts. I've been talking to Variety's Games Editor for over a year now, and have discussed our potential working relationship with their Editor-in-Chief on a couple of occasions. The Variety writing staff is made up of industry veterans who are extremely professional and who take their jobs seriously. I've vetted them and would not have picked them up had it been otherwise.

In other sections of Metacritic, we regularly track publications that do not assign a score to their own reviews (LA Times, NY Times, Hollywood Reporter, Variety), and we've always estimated the scores based on the impression gleaned from the review. I've only very rarely taken this approach in the Games section of Metacritic because gamers and the games industry are so sensitive to our scoring system and process. However, I did track the New York Times game reviews for years - a site which had no scores. In that case, the lead critic from the Times, Charles Herold, emailed me his unpublished scores every time the NYT published a review and I used those numbers on Metacritic. (See the scoreless New York Times review of The Orange Box by Charles Herold which appears on Metacritic's Orange Box page with an 88 score) My argument is that if the score comes from the horse's mouth, from the critic him or herself, so that I know the critic's intent definitively, I am satisfied that I can maintain 100% accuracy. (Incidentally, we stopped tracking the NY Times when they laid off their veteran lead critic a few months back.)

So with respect to Variety, I've come to the same arrangement with their lead editor. Each time a game is reviewed, he sends me the link to the review along with their unpublished 0 - 100 score - a score which I post at Metacritic without alteration or personal input. I've vetted a great many reviews and scores from Variety's team before deciding to pick them up like I do with every website and magazine that I decide to track.

And a further note: I receive hundreds of requests from publications asking to be included in Metacritic's process every year. I take each of them seriously and evaluate them using a host of metrics and standards. I've been doing this since 1999, and I'd doubt that anyone has read many more game reviews than I have over the same period. I would suggest that I'm competent to make such decisions, and I am the last and only word on which publications make it to Metacritic. So if you're disappointed with any publication's review of a particular game, step away from your conspiracy theories and know that I've always been the custodian of Metacritic Games and I take this process extremely seriously. Nobody on my team at Metacritic or our parent companies has ever asked me to add or drop a particular publication or individual reviews. They've also had no part in assigning weights to the individual publications. I alone handle this process.

If you have any further questions about my process, I'd be happy to field them via email.

As always, I thank you for using the site.

Best,

Marc Doyle
co-founder, games editor
metacritic.com
"

now it will be interesting to see his reply after people posted the relation between MS and variety.



 

 

 

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lol the fact that their scores is 10+ below average is whats funny.



So is Wired pro Sony, then?

Conspiracy theory hocus pocus damage control at its finest.

Fanboy reviewers, biased agaisnt the PS3 are responsible for low reviews for PS3 exclusives?

That's a load of bull if you ask me.

Fanboy reviewers, biased against the 360, are responsible for lower reviews of 360 exclusives?

Equally non-plausible.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

^^^@Zen

do they have any contract with Sony?if yes then they might very well be,,,,,,,

do they constantly rate 360 games very low and PS3 games high?do they just submit high score multiplat games for PS3 and low score multiplat games for 360?

when they wanna review a 360 game do they keep mentioning PS3 exclusives?(like variety and their Resistance 2 review)

if yes ,then they definitely are.



 

 

 

SpartanFX said:
^^^@Zen

do they have any contract with Sony?if yes then they might very well be,,,,,,,

do they constantly rate 360 games very low and PS3 games high?do they just submit high score multiplat games for PS3 and low score multiplat games for 360?

when they wanna review a 360 game do they keep mentioning PS3 exclusives?(like variety and their Resistance 2 review)

if yes ,then they definitely are.

 

It's called a conspiracy theory, and it's an unprovable theory. Just like the 9/11 conspiracy theorist, you find coincidences that support your theory, but there is no evidence, and no validity to your claims. It's impossible to know what you think is so obvious.

I cannot believe Sony fans are running with this freakin' "fanboy reviewers" argument over the Resistance 2 metacritic score. It's just ludcrious.

I think it's fairly obvious which side of the console war has the most dedicated online orginazation, after reading this bullcrap.(N4G is to thank for that, actually)

Someone gives R2 a low score, and they are literally investigated and discredited by MS fanboys within hours. A story broken by the excellent, but well known Sony fanservice site, N4G.

 

...I won't judge anymore, let it just be enough to say that I think the "fanboy reviewers" talking point is rubbish, and it certainly is unprovable.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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masterb8tr said:
lol the fact that their scores is 10+ below average is whats funny.

 

Wired is 14 points below the Gears 2 average(lowest score for the game), 10 points below the Fable 2 average, and 1 point up on the R2 average.

Conspiracy!



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

reptile168 said:
resistance 2 is still below 9.0 on gamerankings...

 

I'm glad somebody mentioned this. Variety may be 360 fanboys, but they're not the only ones to give PS3 games a lower score than 9/10.



Is Variety the new EuroGamer? Of course, the old EuroGamer is still here.
So, we now have TWO sites biased against the PS3, three if you count Gamespot (although it's to a lesser extent) and NONE biased against the 360. Everybody except 1UP is (apparently) biased against the Wii for not giving Wii Music a 9/10.

Gamespot is slowly redeeming itself though. I can imagine them giving LBP an 8/10 a few months ago. I think they've been on an upward trend since 12th June 2008.

EuroGamer shows absolutely no signs of this, they are yet to give a PS3 exclusive a perfect score, despite giving a perfect to HALO 3.



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Microsoft is forming strategic review partners. From a business sense, this is very smart. Sony should look into doing the same thing.



WiiStation360 said:
Microsoft is forming strategic review partners. From a business sense, this is very smart. Sony should look into doing the same thing.

How the hell does Microsoft Game Studios have all of this money?

They've bought Gamespot, EuroGamer, Variety and several small countries, all while selling the X360 at a massive loss.

I doubt IGN's for sale. Sony could get 1UP. But they have too much honor, damn it!



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