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lol forgot about those games

thanks for adding them



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SaviorX said:

Now that I think about it, not Nintendo, but the Wii itself cannot be allowed to have that gap. Things with Party in the title do not spur hardware sales. The point I'm  trying to make is look at how this software gap has affected HW sales in Japan.

Neither does anything else this generation, with the possible sole exception of Wii Sports. Even Halo 3 only moved about 250,000 extra consoles before the spike faded back into the 360's normal growth pattern.

The era of the system-seller as we know it is over. The market just doesn't work that way anymore. Most people get consoles long before their most-anticipated games are released, leaving comparatively little left over for the release dates. This is great for early console sales, and all three of this generation's consoles benefited from that. But it leaves little hope of significant lasting boosts from pretty much any post-launch game.



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There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

Ail said:
I think the OP has a point even if it was badly articulated.

Year long the Wii has dominated the software charts, some weeks managing to sell as much as the PS3+360 combined.

These last few weeks, not so much so it does seem that HD consoles owners are getting more excited about the holydays release than the Wii owners, at least based on their purchase pattern....

Actually...

Weeks ending 25th May to 24th October 2008:

Wii software: 59.1M

X360: 47.3M

Ps3: 32.2M

Ps360: 79.5M

 

Equavalient in 2007:

Wii: 23.3M

X360: 22.4M

Ps3: 8.1M

Ps360: 30.5M

 

My calculator is messed up, so I have to do the math in my head, but it is pretty close. Ps360 sold 33% more in 2007 and 33% more in 08. Only difference is 360 sold slightly less and Ps3 slightly more (compared to others)

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

RolStoppable said:
Ail said:
I think the OP has a point even if it was badly articulated.

Year long the Wii has dominated the software charts, some weeks managing to sell as much as the PS3+360 combined.

These last few weeks, not so much so it does seem that HD consoles owners are getting more excited about the holydays release than the Wii owners, at least based on their purchase pattern....

You are misinterpreting the OP. This thread is about Wii hardware sales in Japan and the lack of system sellers during the period of mid-April to mid-October. See SaviorX's following post in this thread.

It wasn't about holiday lineups at all until Diomedes1976 derailed the thread with a troll post (you can clearly call it one, because he left out a significant number of Wii games).

Wait...? You made a post ... explaining something? No witty response or great insight?

Becomming a VGChartz god made you crazy.

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

RolStoppable said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
RolStoppable said:

You are misinterpreting the OP. This thread is about Wii hardware sales in Japan and the lack of system sellers during the period of mid-April to mid-October. See SaviorX's following post in this thread.

It wasn't about holiday lineups at all until Diomedes1976 derailed the thread with a troll post (you can clearly call it one, because he left out a significant number of Wii games).

Wait...? You made a post ... explaining something? No witty response or great insight?

Becomming a VGChartz god made you crazy.

You are going out on a limb here by claiming that I wasn't crazy before.

 

 Holy crap! You haven't gone crazy! You've gone square!



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

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RolStoppable said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
RolStoppable said:

You are going out on a limb here by claiming that I wasn't crazy before.

 Holy crap! You haven't gone crazy! You've gone square!

No, after I bought Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2: Grimoirs of the Dark Rift, I started to boycott Square and games with super long titles.

 

 But you still bought Super Mario RPG: The Legend of the Seven Stars on Virtual Console, right?

Hypocrithe (did I spell it correctly this time?)



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

Oyvoyvoyv said:
RolStoppable said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
RolStoppable said:

You are going out on a limb here by claiming that I wasn't crazy before.

 Holy crap! You haven't gone crazy! You've gone square!

No, after I bought Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2: Grimoirs of the Dark Rift, I started to boycott Square and games with super long titles.

 

 But you still bought Super Mario RPG: The Legend of the Seven Stars on Virtual Console, right?

Hypocrithe (did I spell it correctly this time?)

It was developed by Squaresoft, not Square-Enix.  Also it was published by Nintendo.

 



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RolStoppable said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
RolStoppable said:

No, after I bought Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2: Grimoirs of the Dark Rift, I started to boycott Square and games with super long titles.

 But you still bought Super Mario RPG: The Legend of the Seven Stars on Virtual Console, right?

Hypocrithe (did I spell it correctly this time?)

That's true and I must admit that you are a worthy opponent. Square is letting me down pretty much every time, yet I still buy a game from them every year.

 

Thanks for the compliment.

Now maybe we should stop going off-topic.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

Oyvoyvoyv said:
RolStoppable said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:

RolStoppable said:

 But you still bought Super Mario RPG: The Legend of the Seven Stars on Virtual Console, right?

Hypocrithe (did I spell it correctly this time?)

That's true and I must admit that you are a worthy opponent. Square is letting me down pretty much every time, yet I still buy a game from them every year.

 

Thanks for the compliment.

Now maybe we should stop going off-topic.

Don't.  This is funny.

 



Pixel Art can be fun.

Hmmm, I have to agree, but the problem doesn't affect Japanese gamers, it affects American ones. Let me explain it better, Nintendo of Japan is seeing low Wii sales, but not because of the lack of 1st party games, but because of the lack of 3rd party games, main franchises and core games overall. Still, the core Nintendo fan is pretty well attended and considered, with all of the 1st party titles released so far there and like 15 more games announced.

On the other hand, Nintendo of America is seeing record Wii sales, but the gamers and core Nintendo fans are the ones that feel left aside by them. Casual gamers are having a feast right now, but core gamers and Nintendo fans, not so much. Nintendo of America hasn't released or doesn't have planned many of the 1st party Wii games, such as Disaster, Fatal Frame 4, Captain Rainbow, Eyeshield 21 (Though that's a really Japanese game), TV Show King, Family Jockey, etc and NoA hasn't announced any of the games that Nintendo showcased at their conference, save for Punch-Out and Sin & Punishment 2.
What Wii gamers can look after for before June 09 is Wii Sports Resort, Animal Crossing Wii and maybe the GC ports, though they will probably get released Christmas next year at earliest.
Nintendo of America needs to get their act together and start considering the core gamers and longtime Nintendo fans again in the Americas. I know they are delighted with the sales and the money the casual market is generating, but ignoring the core audience is just stupid and releasing 1 1st party game every 3 months is very worrying, as it may seem that NoA is willing to depend solely on the casuals and 3rd parties. Thanks Reggie, not.



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