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321tttrini4everz said:
thetonestarr said:
321tttrini4everz said:
thetonestarr said:
No matter how smoothly it runs, it wouldn't work right. The button layout would make it incredibly complicated and difficult.

*SIGH*

ever tried it ?

 

What's there to try? There aren't enough buttons. Case closed. You can't make something work right when you simply don't have the hardware to do it.

Quit the fanboyism.

 

Yes, it can be done. But would it work right? Would it not be complicated and difficult? No matter how you try it, the answer is no. You need the analog on one side, with a shoulder button/trigger, and you need six buttons + a shoulder/trigger on the other side. There's no other way to work it out without being complicated and difficult. Period.

poor thing...u failed.....cuz u never even played a n64 game on the psp....u are just making assumptions

and then u throw in "fanboy" to justify weak assumptions.....at least try playing a n64 game on the PSP,then state your opinion.....

 

@twesterm

i agree bro...it looks ugly

He actually brings up a good point. The PSP is one button shy of the N64 controller. On top of that, the placement of the buttons are so vastly different that it may affect games from being comfortable to play. It's not a total dealbreaker, but certain games, like the awesome THQ wrestling games, are simply not possible.

 



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321tttrini4everz said:
thetonestarr said:

What's there to try? There aren't enough buttons. Case closed. You can't make something work right when you simply don't have the hardware to do it.

Quit the fanboyism.

 

Yes, it can be done. But would it work right? Would it not be complicated and difficult? No matter how you try it, the answer is no. You need the analog on one side, with a shoulder button/trigger, and you need six buttons + a shoulder/trigger on the other side. There's no other way to work it out without being complicated and difficult. Period.

poor thing...u failed.....cuz u never even played a n64 game on the psp....u are just making assumptions

and then u throw in "fanboy" to justify weak assumptions.....at least try playing a n64 game on the PSP,then state your opinion.....

Uh no, YOU failed. Why the hell should he go out and put money down on a PSP just to confirm what can be seen fairly clearly just by looking at button placement? I can play roms on my laptop if I want to and not waste $150 in the process.

Why don't YOU actually do more than bitch about his "baseless" claims and start backing it up with your own explaination for how this amazingly convenient and intuitive remapping of controls works if it's so damn obvious?

Seriously, I'd like to know.



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Grey Acumen said:
321tttrini4everz said:
thetonestarr said:

What's there to try? There aren't enough buttons. Case closed. You can't make something work right when you simply don't have the hardware to do it.

Quit the fanboyism.

 

Yes, it can be done. But would it work right? Would it not be complicated and difficult? No matter how you try it, the answer is no. You need the analog on one side, with a shoulder button/trigger, and you need six buttons + a shoulder/trigger on the other side. There's no other way to work it out without being complicated and difficult. Period.

poor thing...u failed.....cuz u never even played a n64 game on the psp....u are just making assumptions

and then u throw in "fanboy" to justify weak assumptions.....at least try playing a n64 game on the PSP,then state your opinion.....

Uh no, YOU failed. Why the hell should he go out and put money down on a PSP just to confirm what can be seen fairly clearly just by looking at button placement? I can play roms on my laptop if I want to and not waste $150 in the process.

Why don't YOU actually do more than bitch about his "baseless" claims and start backing it up with your own explaination for how this amazingly convenient and intuitive remapping of controls works if it's so damn obvious?

Seriously, I'd like to know

wow......buying a PSP just to test it ??? where did i mention that ????

yea...i could play alot of roms on my psp without spending over $600 on a useless laptop

besides,playing roms on a pc/laptop is so damn awkward......



321tttrini4everz said:
Grey Acumen said:
321tttrini4everz said:
thetonestarr said:

What's there to try? There aren't enough buttons. Case closed. You can't make something work right when you simply don't have the hardware to do it.

Quit the fanboyism.

 

Yes, it can be done. But would it work right? Would it not be complicated and difficult? No matter how you try it, the answer is no. You need the analog on one side, with a shoulder button/trigger, and you need six buttons + a shoulder/trigger on the other side. There's no other way to work it out without being complicated and difficult. Period.

poor thing...u failed.....cuz u never even played a n64 game on the psp....u are just making assumptions

and then u throw in "fanboy" to justify weak assumptions.....at least try playing a n64 game on the PSP,then state your opinion.....

Uh no, YOU failed. Why the hell should he go out and put money down on a PSP just to confirm what can be seen fairly clearly just by looking at button placement? I can play roms on my laptop if I want to and not waste $150 in the process.

Why don't YOU actually do more than bitch about his "baseless" claims and start backing it up with your own explaination for how this amazingly convenient and intuitive remapping of controls works if it's so damn obvious?

Seriously, I'd like to know

1) wow......buying a PSP just to test it ??? where did i mention that ????

2) yea...i could play alot of roms on my psp without spending over $600 on a useless laptop

3) besides,playing roms on a pc/laptop is so damn awkward......

1) I don't see any PSP games in theonestarr's game list, so I'm kinda doubting he owns a PSP. I suppose he could theoretically borrow one from a friend, provided that friend has homebrew and the emulator in question and some decent roms to test it out. So otherwise, he'd have to buy a PSP to be able to test this out.

2) Any PC will work, but the laptop I have for other things like PC games, College classwork, Art, Videos, net surfing, etc, so I already have that, it's portable, the screen is a lot bigger than the PSP, calling it useless is just childish.

3) Playing on a PC is actually incredibly easy, since I have a PS2 to USB adapter which lets me use my PS2 controller to play roms. Can you say "dual analog"? Well, I'm sure you can say it, but good luck simulating it on your PSP. The PS2 controller came with my PS2 console, so that's covered, and the PS2 to USB adapter cost less than $10.

 

But that's all beside the point. The point is, YOU'RE the one defending the N64 emulator for the PSP. I haven't seen anyone else claiming this N64 emulator on the PSP as being wonderful or comfortable to use. Since you seem to have so much apparent experience with it, why don't YOU tell us how these controls are set up, instead of just telling other people they don't know what they're talking about? Here, I'll even give you the format:

PSP________N64

Analog   =   Analog?
Dpad?     =     Dpad?
L           =           Z?
R           =           R?
O            =         ?
[]
            =         ?
/\
             =         ?
X           =         ?
?            =       Start
?           =          L
?           =          A
?            =         B
?            =         Cv, C^, C<, C>

So come on, just fill in the blanks. You've supposedly tried this emulator and it supposedly works well enough to defend it, so you should be able to do this just fine. After all, you're the one telling other people not to talk about things they don't have any clue about. So now's you're chance to show that YOU know what the heck you're talking about.

Seriously, I'm not even making any assumptions here, I just want to know how this emulator works, but you've yet to give any actual information, so I'm calling you on it. Contribute some real information that defends your point, or accept when people call you on your fanboyism.



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I just wish they'd polish up the SNES emulators for the DS. I can still play them on my Wii, but the controls on the DS are just so obviously perfect for SNES that it's frustrating to have such a sparse compatibility list on the ones currently out.



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@Grey Acumen

N64                    PSP
Start                Start
Analogue Stick        Analogue Stick
Dpad                Dpad
A                    X (Cross)
B                    [] (Square)
Z                    ^ (Triangle)
L Trigger            L Trigger
R Trigger            R Trigger
C buttons            *UNMAPPED*

*and you can save you game anytime and anywhere during the game*<------quite useful

any other questions about the PSP running any applications or emulators ??? i will gladly take time to explain it bro

i call it useless because i don't game on a (desktop or) laptop + i hate hard drive failures,virus/trojans etc........

pc/laptops = hard to maintain and drains $ out of your pocket(dats wat i think)

 



list of emulators that PSP can run:


Amiga 500
Amstrad CPC
Apple II
Applications
Atari
BBC Micro
Capcom Play System 1
Capcom Play System 2
Chip 8
City Life: World Edition
ColecoVision
Commodore 64
Dragon 32/64
Gameboy / Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advance
General
Homebrew Application
HP48
Intellivision
Java
Linux Tools
M.A.M.E.
Macintosh
MGT Sam Coupe
MSX
Neo Geo
Nintendo 64
Nintendo NES
Odyssey
PC-8801
PC-9801
Playstation One
PSP
ScummVM
Sega Genesis/Megadrive
Sega Master System SMS
Super Nintendo SNES
Thomson TO7-70
TI-92 Calculator
Turbo Grafx 16/PCEngine
Vectrex
WonderSwan
X86
Yabasic
ZX Spectrum
ZX81 Sinclair

 

*a dreamcast emulator was made on the psp but it runs slow



Many of the emulators suck though, and N64 are all crap, the framerate is way to low, you have many graphical glitches in most games and a lot wont work.



321tttrini4everz said:

@Grey Acumen

N64                    PSP
Start                Start
Analogue Stick        Analogue Stick
Dpad                Dpad
A                    X (Cross)
B                    [] (Square)
Z                    ^ (Triangle)
L Trigger            L Trigger
R Trigger            R Trigger
C buttons            *UNMAPPED*

*and you can save you game anytime and anywhere during the game*<------quite useful

any other questions about the PSP running any applications or emulators ??? i will gladly take time to explain it bro

Nope, that's all i was asking for, and I'm fairly certain that thetonestarr was asking for that too. Quite frankly, looking at your description, I'm siding with him. 90% of any decent N64 game requires the cbuttons, leaving them out is unacceptable, so his opinion is totally valid whether he's played it or not.

But still, I do give you kudos for actually coming out and explaining that, cause I honestly didn't entirely believe you would.

Working with what you've got, I'd personally switch the Z button to the L Trigger, let the Triangle handle the L button, and then use Circle to convert the Dpad to handle the C buttons. Hardly perfect, but it's at least a start.

Also, the saving at any time doesn't really impress me, since that's pretty much the first thing that gets added after it has games running at full speed, if not before then. Heck, the DS NES emulator allows you to rewind 10 - 30 seconds. When you combine that with the save state, it's practically legendary.



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