BrainBoxLtd said:
perpride said:
radha said:
c0rd said:
Kyros said:
That person simply didn’t like what we presented in “Wii Music.”
You could say the same things about Ninjabread Man. Perhaps the game is simply bad? Or the concept is stupid? I mean I wouldn't expect the developer to acknowledge it anyway. |
Now, how many copies did Ninjabread Man sell?
Reviewers don't determine what is good or bad, the majority does. Matt from IGN is just one guy out of the (possibly) millions that will try this game.
|
What does that means?? that the earth is really flat? that gallio was wrong? that britney is better that bethoven????
you really think that quality is democratic????? and that really is affected by the opinion of the masses???? what do you mean with that statement?
|
That.
The number of copies the game sells are only important if you are Nintendo. It mean nothing of its quality. You're argument can be turned to say "if Ninjabread man sold 10 million copies it would be a good game".
|
First, the whole Galileo and Copernicus argument would be about perspective vs. reality. When it comes to entertainment and the arts, quality is very much subjective. There are things that can be quantified and measured within either one, but what entertains or moves someone is typically, personal and different for every person.
Second, Cord said the majority decides quality, not sales. Beethoven died over 180 years ago, and his music is still played and recognized worldwide to this day. (A small piece of which is IN Wii Music) Do you really think the same will be true of Britney Spears music? If there is a mandate from the people that determines quality, it should be looked at in the context of when and why it came to be, and how long it actually lasts.
And lastly, by majority I think cord simply means the masses decides what will stand the test of time, not the incredibly few elite who believe their choices for art and entertainment are the right ones.
|
1 - If you want to speak about the subjectivity of art, then again, any piece of shit game can be called the best game of all time. I agree with you that art (music, games, whatever) is extremely down to the individual; but does this mean that we should have no way of actually measuring whether a game is good or not? Sales cannot be what you base your decision on. Wii Music will likely go on to sell more units than Gears of War, MGS4, Uncharted, Lost Oddyssey, Mass Effect....you name it! This does not mean it is a beter game.
2 - Agreed, but we are talking about video games...an art that is not even a century old yet. Wii Music will sell insane amounts simply because of the context in which it is being released. Like I said, add the name "Wii" to any game and it will sell millions. "WiiNinjabread" would have been a million seller had it not been a crappy port of a PS2 game. Wii music will not last this "test of time" we are talking about. You think we will look back at it in ten years and remember it as a classic? Screw ten years from now, my eyes tear up from sadness when I look at this game today! So much wasted potential! If you want to examine video games as an art form, what the "masses" support should have absolutley no bearing on how good a game actually is.
3 - How, in any way, could you call the people that are reviewing this game elite?
I own a Wii, and I know there is absolutley no fucking way in hell I will ever buy this title. There are so many other places Nintendo could have been focusing their time instead of developing this. They really know how to stick it to their loyal fans.
(mostly)
