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Does anyone else find it really strange how the WoW susbscribers just keep on growing? I recall it being massively popular amongst the people I know, but eventually most of them gave it up. How could word of mouth still be spreading this thing? I assumed everyone that would be interested in it knew of it long ago (it's freggin 4 years old, can't believe it). This growth can't be coming from the US, right?

I guess this is how many people feel when they say everyone is getting bored of the Wii. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much, huh...



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c0rd said:

Does anyone else find it really strange how the WoW susbscribers just keep on growing? I recall it being massively popular amongst the people I know, but eventually most of them gave it up. How could word of mouth still be spreading this thing? I assumed everyone that would be interested in it knew of it long ago (it's freggin 4 years old, can't believe it). This growth can't be coming from the US, right?

I guess this is how many people feel when they say everyone is getting bored of the Wii. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much, huh...

 

I believe the country with the biggest base of Wow players is actually China not the US, nevertheless the number of subscribers is pretty much stable in western countries( most of the people I know that quit the game ended up coming back after a while).

Subscribers numbers tend to raise close to an expansion too as the hype from it tends to draw back old players...

I woudn't be surprised if the constant release of competitors MMORPG isn't actually helping Wow too.

Some of these games draw new players to the market and some of those players unsastified with the game but liking the new genre they have discovered end up trying Wow :P

Still I would expect Wow population to peak sometime after WOTLK is released ( somewhere around 12-13 million players). The question being how long the game will stay at its peak before the number of subscribers slowly starts going down...( the next expansion after WOTLK is going to be hard for Blizzard as WOTLK is going to mine most of the remaining lore that has people motivated in playing the game).

Wow is benefiting too from the fact that 4 years after its release the game is still airing commercials...

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

That's alot imo.



you know what's' scary. Blizzard makes that much. Nintendo makes more profit than all other video game companies combined. Think about that for a second.



One thing to know too is that when a new MMORPG get released and people leave Wow for a while to go try it the number of subscriptions does not dip as people tend to keep their subscription active when they do this.



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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I really wonder if Blizz can make another expansion for WoW, I mean isn't Arhas is supposed to be "THE" badass?



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Naum said:
I really wonder if Blizz can make another expansion for WoW, I mean isn't Arhas is supposed to be "THE" badass?

 

There are others ideas floating around ( like something based around the Emerald Dream) but yeah it is going to be hard for the next expansion after WOTLK to captivate players as much as WOTLK is.

That's why I am predicting Wow subscribers base will peak sometime during WOTLK ( the game will be more than 4 years old so it has to peak sometime anyway).

 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
Naum said:
I really wonder if Blizz can make another expansion for WoW, I mean isn't Arhas is supposed to be "THE" badass?

 

There are others ideas floating around ( like something based around the Emerald Dream) but yeah it is going to be hard for the next expansion after WOTLK to captivate players as much as WOTLK is.

That's why I am predicting Wow subscribers base will peak sometime during WOTLK ( the game will be more than 4 years old so it has to peak sometime anyway).

 

 

 

Next thing you know they will come out with World of Warcraft: The Void, and you'll be able to 10 man Kerrigan as the last boss in the last dungeon.



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Try Nintendo. They made around 3 billion dollars in profit last year. And this year they have projected to make around 4 billion. That's 3 times the revenue of Blizzard, in profit. Not too shabby.

But yeah, Blizzard is sure raking in the bucks. Myself I have carefully avoided any and every online game, because I know I would just get hooked and loose what little life I have left. World of Warcraft is scary.



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Ail said:
Nabraham said:

Ail said:
Average worldwide price of a Wow subscription is 10$.

Price of a subscription is a lot lower in China and on top of that Blizzard uses a third party to host the servers and provide support, that third party pays them a fee out of the money it collects...

So worldwide revenue is more around 110 million$/month.

One thing not to forget is that there are huge costs associated with those revenue ( except the Chinese ones due to third party taking on the costs).

In the end I would be surprised if the profit per player was above 4$, it's probably less....

Profit of course peaks when expansion are released though...

 

 

By your logic of them only making $4 per player you saying that it costs them $70 million a month to run WoW in costs (you said it costs on average $10 per player and there are 11 million of them). No way is this possible, just last month blizzard stated that they have spent $200 million on total costs for WoW since the game launched.

 

 

 

I would like to see a link stating that.

Just a few month ago Activision CEO estimated Blizzard has spent close to 1 Billion on Wow so far, which I believe and that did not include the operation costs which are actually the biggest part of the monthly costs.

Blizzard has a team of over 500 full time customer support people ( their support is actually bigger than their development team), they run close to 200 server clusters ( each server is actually several machines) and must have HUGE network bills...

Besides the revenue Vivendi game was making before the aquisition or the revenue projection for Activision-Blizzard this year doesn't support Wow making a bigger profit/player.

 

Vivendi games was hauling 400-500 million of profit the year before the merge.

Vivendi games was mostly Blizzard + Sierra.

I don't belive Sierra was loosing 100 millions of dollar a year so if you keep Sierra neutral you have Blizzard hauling 400-500 million a year which is around 40 million a month.

At the time they had less subscribers ( 9-10 millions) so you get around 4$ of profit per subscriber...

If you look at the estimation for Activision-Blizzard profit this year and compare them to what Activision made the year before the aquisition you get roughly the same kind of number ( little bit lower as Blizzard is spending more and more on SC2 and D3 as their release get closer so those development are absorbing a little of WoW profits)...

 

LoL at the comment asking if any other company made as much profit....

In 2007 Exxon Mobil made 1287$ of profit per second for a total of 40.6 billion $....

They made as much profit as Blizzard makes in a full year in less than 4 days....

 

This was a few months back, i just googled it (I originally read it on joystiq):

 

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20850

 



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