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outlawauron on 27 October 2008
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
outlawauron said:
Stats87 said:

Hard to say

On one hand, they have a 3.6 Million Seller hit in Japan with DQVIII...but that is also DQ.

The rest of their games (with the exception of Layton) all had modest sales with games like Jeanne D'arc, DC 1/2 and Rogue Galaxy, all falling into a 200k to 400k range. However, all these games were met with critical acclaim and praise, some more then others, so very good games are associated with Level 5.

Releasing during the Holiday period should help, although I think a December 18th release would have been better then December 25th. But I'm sure many people will use Xmas money to buy gifts, (possibly even get the game pre-ordered as a gift?) as gift exchange in Japan is generally on the 24th is it not? I'm not exactly an expert on Japanse customs for certain Holiadys.

So taking this into account mixed in with the fact this is the PS3's first big RPG and it will get tons of marketing and hype....

Lifetime Sales of 1.2 Million

Not necessarily true. Most Holiday sales happen the first week of January. Most Japanese are not Christian and then do not celebrate Christmas.

 

 Still, you would not belive how big christmas is in japan...trust me...

Im just going off last year's sales.



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Stats87 on 27 October 2008
outlawauron said:
Stats87 said:

Hard to say

On one hand, they have a 3.6 Million Seller hit in Japan with DQVIII...but that is also DQ.

The rest of their games (with the exception of Layton) all had modest sales with games like Jeanne D'arc, DC 1/2 and Rogue Galaxy, all falling into a 200k to 400k range. However, all these games were met with critical acclaim and praise, some more then others, so very good games are associated with Level 5.

Releasing during the Holiday period should help, although I think a December 18th release would have been better then December 25th. But I'm sure many people will use Xmas money to buy gifts, (possibly even get the game pre-ordered as a gift?) as gift exchange in Japan is generally on the 24th is it not? I'm not exactly an expert on Japanse customs for certain Holiadys.

So taking this into account mixed in with the fact this is the PS3's first big RPG and it will get tons of marketing and hype....

Lifetime Sales of 1.2 Million

Not necessarily true. Most Holiday sales happen the first week of January. Most Japanese are not Christian and then do not celebrate Christmas.



It's true they are not Christian ( I think there is fraction of a percent of Christians in Japan) but I remember reading a couple years back that they do celebrate the holiday, just differently, and that it is a commercial extravaganza. I know for a fact that December 25th is not a holiday, like i said earlier I think the 24th is gift day, but it's not like the country ignores it. I think there is also a big romantic aspect associated with this time.

but yeah, the peak sales do seem be the weeks after Xmas



codename64546 on 27 October 2008

They do celebrate Christmas Day as a Holiday, such as giving gifts etc, being happy...



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Stats87 on 27 October 2008
codename64546 said:
They do celebrate Christmas Day as a Holiday, such as giving gifts etc, being happy...

since when is that apart of Christmas?



Seraphic_Sixaxis on 27 October 2008
outlawauron said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
outlawauron said:
Stats87 said:

Hard to say

On one hand, they have a 3.6 Million Seller hit in Japan with DQVIII...but that is also DQ.

The rest of their games (with the exception of Layton) all had modest sales with games like Jeanne D'arc, DC 1/2 and Rogue Galaxy, all falling into a 200k to 400k range. However, all these games were met with critical acclaim and praise, some more then others, so very good games are associated with Level 5.

Releasing during the Holiday period should help, although I think a December 18th release would have been better then December 25th. But I'm sure many people will use Xmas money to buy gifts, (possibly even get the game pre-ordered as a gift?) as gift exchange in Japan is generally on the 24th is it not? I'm not exactly an expert on Japanse customs for certain Holiadys.

So taking this into account mixed in with the fact this is the PS3's first big RPG and it will get tons of marketing and hype....

Lifetime Sales of 1.2 Million

Not necessarily true. Most Holiday sales happen the first week of January. Most Japanese are not Christian and then do not celebrate Christmas.

 

 Still, you would not belive how big christmas is in japan...trust me...

Im just going off last year's sales.

 

 Ahh, i see.



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Seraphic_Sixaxis on 27 October 2008
Stats87 said:
codename64546 said:
They do celebrate Christmas Day as a Holiday, such as giving gifts etc, being happy...

since when is that apart of Christmas?

 

 LOL!



Luney Tune on 27 October 2008

1st day: 75.000
1st week: 100.000
1st month: 150.000
Lifetime: 175.000

To me WKC looks like an MMO pretending to be a traditional JRPG, and MMO's have so far been fairly unpopular in Japan. Reportedly the game recieved a mixed reception at TGS. According to Edge Magazine the announcer had to remind the audience that the game did support single player (as well as online multiplayer) several times during the presentation. The fact that Sony chose to demo a near finished game with a video rather than a playable demo is not a good sign.

Also the art style seems to lean slightly towards WRPG's such as Fable, rather than the traditional anime art style that Japan favours. I suspect WKC is aimed primarily at western markets.

I hope the game turns out well, and I hope it sells well. But I think most people here have completely unrealistic expectations. Level 5's biggest hit on their own so far is Rogue Galaxy, which sold 350.000 on a 10x bigger user base. The best selling PS3 JRPG so far is Valkyria Chronicles (made by Sega's popular Sakura Taisen team), which according to Famitsu only sold 139.000.

I think 175K lifetime is a reasonable estimate. That will make it Level 5's biggest hit so far (considering the size of the user base), and it will make it the biggest selling RPG on the PS3 so far.



Luney Tune on 27 October 2008

And by the way, Christmas is celebrated pretty much all over the world in some form or another. It's an old pagan tradition evolving mostly from various mid-winter celebrations, and it has *nothing* to do with Christianity. December 25 is the birthday of the mediterranean pagan godess Mitra. Jesus is believed to have been born sometime in early spring. For this reason many hardcore christians actually do not celebrate christmas at all.



codename64546 on 27 October 2008
Stats87 said:
codename64546 said:
They do celebrate Christmas Day as a Holiday, such as giving gifts etc, being happy...

since when is that apart of Christmas?

haha

not a part of Christmas, but part of celebrating their Christmas...



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Lafiel on 27 October 2008

1st day: 250k
1st week: 400k
1st month: 550k
lifetime: 650k