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gay republican.... now thats a first.



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akuma587 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
I'd like to see YOUR kids playing in Baghdad park.

Hey, it's pretty nice now! We blew up the old one on accident and built a new one. This time it has manned sentries and everything, plus an oil well for the kiddies!

 

Iraq is like the new Michael Jackson.

"Yeah I support the war, but I won't let MY KIDS sleep over there."



akuma587 said:
I don't know how some one could be a Log Cabin Republican...that's like saying you are a black person at a Ku Klan Meeting.

The Republican Party usually doesn't even let them have booths at their events, or give them any kind of recognition. They are treated like second class citizens BY THEIR OWN PARTY. Talk about gluttons for punishment. A healthy percentage of the people in your party think you are fundamentally evil. I really don't know how you can reconcile being gay and Republican...libertarian sure, but Republican?

 

I don't know how anybody could be gay and a democrat as well.  Democrats are also against gay marriage.

Gay people should really go libretarian.



Kasz216 said:
akuma587 said:
I don't know how some one could be a Log Cabin Republican...that's like saying you are a black person at a Ku Klan Meeting.

The Republican Party usually doesn't even let them have booths at their events, or give them any kind of recognition. They are treated like second class citizens BY THEIR OWN PARTY. Talk about gluttons for punishment. A healthy percentage of the people in your party think you are fundamentally evil. I really don't know how you can reconcile being gay and Republican...libertarian sure, but Republican?

 

I don't know how anybody could be gay and a democrat as well.  Democrats are also against gay marriage.

Gay people should really go libretarian.

I totally agree, but at least they are for civil unions.  And Democrats really are for gay marriage, they just have to lie about it because the evangelicals and Catholics they try to woo will shit themselves if the Democrats come out and say they are for it.  Its very ironic to me that the Democrats are for abortion and "against" gay marriage when gay marriage hurts less people than abortion does.  I blame the Religious Right.

Its a hole in the platform that is just kind of a fictional hole, but a hole nonetheless.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
Kasz216 said:
akuma587 said:
I don't know how some one could be a Log Cabin Republican...that's like saying you are a black person at a Ku Klan Meeting.

The Republican Party usually doesn't even let them have booths at their events, or give them any kind of recognition. They are treated like second class citizens BY THEIR OWN PARTY. Talk about gluttons for punishment. A healthy percentage of the people in your party think you are fundamentally evil. I really don't know how you can reconcile being gay and Republican...libertarian sure, but Republican?

 

I don't know how anybody could be gay and a democrat as well.  Democrats are also against gay marriage.

Gay people should really go libretarian.

I totally agree, but at least they are for civil unions.  And Democrats really are for gay marriage, they just have to lie about it because the evangelicals and Catholics they try to woo will shit themselves if the Democrats come out and say they are for it.  Its very ironic to me that the Democrats are for abortion and "against" gay marriage when gay marriage hurts less people than abortion does.  I blame the Religious Right.

Its a hole in the platform that is just kind of a fictional hole, but a hole nonetheless.

 

You blame the religious right that the democrats aren't brave enough to stand up for what they believe is right?

You'll blame everything on the religious right won't you.

I think it's more that the people who are for gay marriage but pretend not to be are cowards that don't deserve to be polticians.

Also, i may be wrong but i believe most people in the country are against gay marriage.  Not just the religious right.

Most also are against the government allowing or prohibiting gay marriage as well.

I'm guessing the trick there being that the majority (or at least a decent portion of people) believe marriage is between a man and a woman and the government has no say in that.



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Beja-Beja said:
gay republican.... now thats a first.


Uh Lincoln.

I mean he was both the first gay and non christian president we've ever had... he was also mentally ill... but another of our presidents could of been mentally ill before him.

 



Kasz216 said:

You blame the religious right that the democrats aren't brave enough to stand up for what they believe is right?

You'll blame everything on the religious right won't you.

I think it's more that the people who are for gay marriage but pretend not to be are cowards that don't deserve to be polticians.

Also, i may be wrong but i believe most people in the country are against gay marriage.  Not just the religious right.

Most also are against the government allowing or prohibiting gay marriage as well.

I'm guessing the trick there being that the majority (or at least a decent portion of people) believe marriage is between a man and a woman and the government has no say in that.

Yes, yes I will.

And I agree it is pretty weak of the Democrats to not stand up for gay marriage.  Most Democrats I know are for it.  At least now that the issue is on the table more people will come around to it as time goes on.  I really don't see why it is such a big deal. 

People are lying to themselves if they think marriage is sacred in this country.  Divorce rates are through the roof, single parents are very normal, and on TV you can watch Who Wants to Marry a Millionare, The Bachelor, or whatever form of human auctioning you desire.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

halogamer1989 said:

Yes, I agree with the bolded part but what will stop the world from switching to a Euro intl trading standard?  I am for everyone to have their own choices but make this out of wisdom and not popularity or race, I beg you.  A supermajority with an Obama led executive branch will bring about change that even some Dems do not want and a majority of the center right nation doesn't want either--nationalization of more and more organizations, the ceasing union secret ballot, etc.  I even see a one world currency to come out of this--whether you are a Christian or not, this is a radical depature from intl banking.  I urge you to read the following Wall Street Journal piece re this -

http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

I agree with you on this--whomever wins--they will have a lot of shit to clean up...

It's obvious to see that you support McCain and Palin.   And the world would not change to that standard as long as we can keep our economy strong.  One thing that will help that is because the world economy relies on us being strong, therefore we will continue to be strong.. The current downcycle we have right now has shown the weakness throughout the world.  We go down, so does Europe and Asia.  For them to keep their wealth, we have to continue to be a power or someone will have to shine through and prove that their people are far more materialistic (I hate to admit it) then we are.  

 

While Europe has great countries, and a great tradition behind them, they need a strong US to really move forward in the world especially when the economy is involved.   The world is becoming more entertwined and we will continue to see more companies cross borders and own "foreign" companies.  (Us to Europe, and vice versa).

My Vote this November is for Obama.   He's not a socialist as McCain and Palin are quickly to call him, hoping for "fear" of the American people to switch their votes and get them into office.  If I were to consider them seriously, I would have to actually hear what they are selling to me.  Obama has spoken to me in my state (a swing state, Missouri) and have explained his platform and what he will do for me.  In my honest opinion, Obama will do more for this country as he's far more intelligent, and ready to be president then McCain.  We already had one president who some would "Like to have a beer with" and look where that got us?  Into a war we shouldn't have. An Economy in ruins.  And a loss of our personal freedoms.  Bless our friends in the UK, but I don't want that kind of Nanny state to control us, and i know Obama won't do that to his people.   I want a president who is at least as smart as me, if not smarter.... I dont' want someone who graduated 5th from teh bottom of his military class.  Give me the Harvard genius.  Give me the man who promises me true change, not just a stolen platform like McCain did.    I don't want a "Maverick" who has crshed 5 planes while in service of this country and got himself and others caught.

 

Union Secret ballots... I really could care less about.  I'm not in a union... I actualy work for the government to keep our Homeland Secure.. (You can figure out where rather easily).   Christian?  Well.. I was confirmed, but I'm not actively practicing.   As long as I'm a good person and treat my fellow man (YOu got that, not just american, but all people) great and like a good person, I'm living the life spelled out by the bible and many other biblical and spiritual books.

 

I don't see 1 world currency coming out of this in the end.   And definitely not by the end of Obama's 2nd term.

 

Sure, I'm confident he'll win.  Our future depends on obama winning.  Our Children's future depends on Obama winning.. The World depends on Obama winning this election.   Obama will be able to unite this world unlike any other leader of any other country has ever been able to do.

With the history of racism and bigotry in this country, if others see us electing a black man, who has been exposed to many religions, including Christianity, and Muslim religions, can possibly bring many of us together and hopefully a world that will resepct each other and bring peace all around the globe.

To this I say... GoBama!

 

 



 


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halogamer1989 said:

Yes, I agree with the bolded part but what will stop the world from switching to a Euro intl trading standard?  I am for everyone to have their own choices but make this out of wisdom and not popularity or race, I beg you.  A supermajority with an Obama led executive branch will bring about change that even some Dems do not want and a majority of the center right nation doesn't want either--nationalization of more and more organizations, the ceasing union secret ballot, etc.  I even see a one world currency to come out of this--whether you are a Christian or not, this is a radical depature from intl banking.  I urge you to read the following Wall Street Journal piece re this -

http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

I agree with you on this--whomever wins--they will have a lot of shit to clean up...

Sounds like a bunch of John Birch talking points. That is strange though, since McCain is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations. Hrm...



akuma587 said:
steven787 said:

 

Actually I forgot to mention another similarity and difference, the third parties today (Barr and Nader) are polled to be about as significant as the third parties in 48; however, there's only two major TP candidate and one pulls Dem votes and one pulls Rep votes.  All of those '48 candidates were left w/ variations (Dixiecrats were a mix with a State's rights (read: racist) platform.)

Indeed, the state's rights drum has often been one of ignorance, intolerance, and oppression.

Some states, like California, take it the complete opposite direction though.  I wish Texas was more like California...then it would even be legal to have certain amounts of marijuana, or it would just be a traffic ticket.

 

 

Notice, when a state wants to protect rights, the supreme court usually is in the favor of states rights.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.