Even with moneyhats, they can still come over a year later, like the original Bioshock.

So can xbox fanboys quit with "sony keeps loosing exclusives"? because the 360 is the same... except they never had that many (especially good ones) to lose in the first place.

I don't recall MS owning the rights to Ninja Gaiden or Gears of War , NG Sigma was on the PS3.

didnt sony buy MM? I dont think they can work for something on the 360. and I thought epic owned gears of war...

my point exactly. its not just sony losing exclusives. you can argue they are loosing bigger ones but that would be because ms really never had that many (or as big) big of ones.

Sony don't own MM but i'm pretty sure they would have secured the rights to the franchise based upon how heavily marketed it is right now.

Media Molecule may have been planning to work on the 360...when they were still part of Lionhead.  The only thing we really know about the history of Media Molecule and LittleBigPlanet is this.

Also, Gears is solely owned by Epic.  Microsoft just inked a deal with them to publish the first two games in the franchise.

And Ninja Gaiden was only ever Xbox exclusive becuase of Itigaki.  Tecmo probably wanted NGII multiplat (despite Itigaki's wants) to help recover dev costs, which is why MS had to step in as publisher.  This issue of exclusivity is probably why the relationship between Itigaki and Tecmo went south, and Itigaki ended up leaving the company.

MS does own Fable, Forza, Halo, etc.  The main issue, however, is that they're slowly closing down their internal studios (FASA, Ensemble) or giving up their second parties (BioWare, Bizarre).  They still have quite a few IPs, but few people to work on them.  For example, it was initially rumored that Turn 10 would announce Forza 3 at this past E3.  That never happened.  Now the rumors state that Turn 10 is working on PGR5, as obviously Bizarre is no longer working on the franchise.  Whichever is true at the moment, Turn 10 is now being forced to juggle two different franchises, as Microsoft has nobody else to work on them.  What will happen to the Age series?  The Mech series (now that FASA Interactive is gone)?

A. This wasn't an Xbox 360 franchise, lol. It was released on PC and Xbox 360. Is Left 4 Dead an Xbox 360 franchise, because if it is:

A1. PS3 fans are in trouble

A2. The will never admit it

B. Depending on 3rd party developers for exclusivity has always been something that wins generations. It's especially helpful when you pay then for that exclusivity.

It sounds like you are defending Sony's "coasting/1st party" strategy, which in reality is a "drop all support for 3rd parties because they need us, not the other way around" strategy, and so far it has managed to move them from 1st to last, and make them lose every big 3rd party franchise that was once associated with the Playstation.

You don't need it to be exclusive forever. Bioshock 360 lost no sales because of the PS3 version. You just need to pay developers to make games exclusive for a little while, like TLR, or Star Ocean. Developers used to do that for free. They won't any longer. Microsoft ruined that for Sony...by paying for it.

^ so the question isnt if NG3 will go multi but if there will ever be a NG3 due to the dude leaving.

No, but they seem to have forged a strong bond with the company, ala Sony and Insomniac. Really, if it wasn't for Sony (or more specifically, Phil Harrison), LittleBigPlanet would've never become quite the game it is now.

The most recent studios Sony bought were Zipper Interactive and Geurrilla Games in 2006, as well as Evolution Studios (and it's subsidiary BigBig Studios) in 2007.