New tech in the wii or just wii slim ? They are losing gamers now, what will happen when theres a 400 or 300 dollar PS3.
??? They're jsut about to reach GC's sales in Japan... How is that losing gamers???
I doubt any Nintendo Fanboy is leaving Nintendo at the moment...
Nintendo lost lots of gamers in the last 2 generations... I believe they are regaining gamers again...
| Nonquihote said: New tech in the wii or just wii slim ? They are losing gamers now, what will happen when theres a 400 or 300 dollar PS3. |
Not much ..
$300 to $400 is still well into the 'Early Adopter Core-Gamer' price range which is (essentially) what he already accepted that Nintendo may have lost some of those. The Wii will (obviously) not be $250 forever and it is likely the Wii could be $100 (Wii + Wii Sports) to $150 (Wii + Wii Sports + Wii Fit) by the time the PS3 gets into a price range which is appropriate for the average gamer ($200 to $300).
A question we don't really have an answer for is whether people will even be interested in the PS3 as it approaches $200. Blu-Ray as a selling feature only really stands as long as Blu-Ray players remain close in price to the PS3 and it seems like they're dropping far faster; and the games that are needed to sell the PS3 as a gaming machine will only be exclusive (or even released on the PS3) if it sells well enough.
| pobladofx said: ??? They're jsut about to reach GC's sales in Japan... How is that losing gamers??? I doubt any Nintendo Fanboy is leaving Nintendo at the moment... Nintendo lost lots of gamers in the last 2 generations... I believe they are regaining gamers again... |
I'd say more along the lines of creating gamers over regaining. They're building market segments that really never existed before.
To cash in my CC rewards points for $300 in Circuit City gift cards to purchase a 360 or not: That is the question.
I prefer the term "core gamers" myself....this generation a "division wall" seems to be rising...interesting.
| Nonquihote said: New tech in the wii or just wii slim ? They are losing gamers now, what will happen when theres a 400 or 300 dollar PS3. |
You are going to need to clarify this potentially vague statement. They are not losing gamers and if they are what does this have to say about the 360 and PS3 because they are not selling anywhere near as well. I think you meant to say that they are losing hardcore gamers which is possible and something that was even mentioned in the interview but the install base is growing and it will outsell the GC total LTD sales by the end of next year maybe even as early as June 2008. So there is no way it is losing gamers but only a small fragmetn who will come back agfter teh install base peaks over 50 million and the biggest franchises will be on the Wii.
What will happen when the PS3 sells for 300? Not that much really the 400 dollar market is being dried up by the 360 at the moment. The PS3 has mostly dried up the 600 dollar market. By hte time the PS3 gets to 300 the 360 will have dried that one up as well and the 360 will be toying with the 200 dollar impulse buy market while the Wii will be messing with the value level market of sub 150. Blu Ray won't make a difference as by the time the PS3 is 300 Blu ray players should be sub 100 dollar range if they have had any type of market penetration if not than consumers will not care about it as much.
Sure the PS3 will see sales spikes with price cuts but they won't be long lived until it gets under 300 and that will only matter if the average gamer hasn't got tired of waiting and moved on already. Not that the PS3 is doomed but the price at this point will always be a hinderance to its success.
redspear said:
You are going to need to clarify this potentially vague statement. They are not losing gamers and if they are what does this have to say about the 360 and PS3 because they are not selling anywhere near as well. I think you meant to say that they are losing hardcore gamers which is possible and something that was even mentioned in the interview but the install base is growing and it will outsell the GC total LTD sales by the end of next year maybe even as early as June 2008. So there is no way it is losing gamers but only a small fragmetn who will come back agfter teh install base peaks over 50 million and the biggest franchises will be on the Wii.
What will happen when the PS3 sells for 300? Not that much really the 400 dollar market is being dried up by the 360 at the moment. The PS3 has mostly dried up the 600 dollar market. By hte time the PS3 gets to 300 the 360 will have dried that one up as well and the 360 will be toying with the 200 dollar impulse buy market while the Wii will be messing with the value level market of sub 150. Blu Ray won't make a difference as by the time the PS3 is 300 Blu ray players should be sub 100 dollar range if they have had any type of market penetration if not than consumers will not care about it as much.
Sure the PS3 will see sales spikes with price cuts but they won't be long lived until it gets under 300 and that will only matter if the average gamer hasn't got tired of waiting and moved on already. Not that the PS3 is doomed but the price at this point will always be a hinderance to its success. |
i totally agree with your statement..nothing to add as far as me is concerned...^_^
| Nonquihote said: New tech in the wii or just wii slim ? They are losing gamers now, what will happen when theres a 400 or 300 dollar PS3. |
Probably a Wii slim, new tech would cut into their profit margins.
How are they losing gamers, the system is still very hard to find, they can barely make enough to meet demand
Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)
Honestly, reading what was said, it doesn't seem like they have any hardware revisions planned at all right now.
As far as losing gamers, I think the majority of those losses are people who would never of been very interested in the first place. This entire generation for Nintendo has been about this calculated risk of possibly alienating certain hardcore gamers while trying to appeal to the mass markets more. So this is not going to be a new change that will impact sales trends. Honestly from what I read of the article it was pretty much the same 'ole stuff.
 |
| To Each Man, Responsibility |
redspear said:
You are going to need to clarify this potentially vague statement. They are not losing gamers and if they are what does this have to say about the 360 and PS3 because they are not selling anywhere near as well. I think you meant to say that they are losing hardcore gamers which is possible and something that was even mentioned in the interview but the install base is growing and it will outsell the GC total LTD sales by the end of next year maybe even as early as June 2008. So there is no way it is losing gamers but only a small fragmetn who will come back agfter teh install base peaks over 50 million and the biggest franchises will be on the Wii.
What will happen when the PS3 sells for 300? Not that much really the 400 dollar market is being dried up by the 360 at the moment. The PS3 has mostly dried up the 600 dollar market. By hte time the PS3 gets to 300 the 360 will have dried that one up as well and the 360 will be toying with the 200 dollar impulse buy market while the Wii will be messing with the value level market of sub 150. Blu Ray won't make a difference as by the time the PS3 is 300 Blu ray players should be sub 100 dollar range if they have had any type of market penetration if not than consumers will not care about it as much.
Sure the PS3 will see sales spikes with price cuts but they won't be long lived until it gets under 300 and that will only matter if the average gamer hasn't got tired of waiting and moved on already. Not that the PS3 is doomed but the price at this point will always be a hinderance to its success. |
pirists/hardcore/core they are losing them, and they know it the guy said it himself.
I can say dragons exists and iam a frodo the elf, but facts are the biggest franchises are not on the wii and it does not seem like they will be any time soon.
What will happen at 300 is PS3 will tap in to the tens of millions of formar PS owners. PS2 is still selling great and creating more PS fans that will be uprading to a new console a few years from now, put the two together.
About Us |
Terms of Use |
Privacy Policy |
Advertise |
Staff |
Contact
Display As Desktop
Display As Mobile
© 2006-2025 VGChartz Ltd. All rights reserved.
