GTA4
Also out on 360 with exclusive downloadable content.
right.
FF13
Let me know when it's actually even remotely close to being released. I'm personally calling 2009 release date.
Right.
MGS4
Not as big a seller as people make it out to be (just like Metroid Prime isn't a big seller as some people seem to think)
The whole gamer community KNOW MGS, it is not the case of MP3, u cannot compare these 2 games.
It was one of the more hyped game during E3.
MGS4 will be a system seller.
(just consider the fight between Sony and Microsoft to get the exclusivity ...)
Killzone2
Halo Killer 2? It was overhyped last time. What makes you so sure it won't be overhyped this time?
LOL, Halo is not alone in console world. Killzone (graphically) is already better than Halo3 (same for UT3 or CoD4).
Halo3 is just disapointing. But since the 10M Xbox360 are Halo fan, I think Halo can sell +8M copies.
Whatever, about Killzone2, remember what happen last year with Gear of War on Xbox360 : a FPS with amazing graphism, good gameplay = system seller.
Killzone2 could follow the same way.
Versus
I haven't even heard of this game.
Let's say it is FFXIV
It is suppose to be released on PS3, to be the direct sequel of FFXIII, and, let's say, it will be released on 2011 lol.
Gran Turismo 5
Their biggest hope for the future. If this game doesn't do well, there's little hope for the system.
GT5 will be an amazing system seller in europe and japan, you will see.
LBP
It could be big but then again, it could be average. It's one of those games that's always funny to see Sony fanboys constantly bringing up as they call all Wii games casual and kiddy.
Hard to know if the game will appeal casual gamer and sell a lot ...

If Final Fantasy XIII does not sell well on the PS3, don't expect a single other Fabula Nova Crystallis game to be on the PS3. Square-Enix is investing an astronomical amount in the success of that compilation. They won't risk their franchise on brand loyalty to Sony.

And honestly, if the PS3 doesn't pick up sales this holiday season, don't expect FF13 to stay on the PS3.

I believe in brand loyalty I just now learned that....nintendo had it since the begining and they are gonna keep it....sony got it because sega failed at the time with the saturn and people jumped shipped and saw sony's light...and sega's darkside...microsoft than came into the business and they did good considering they were well known in the PC market and everyone knows microsoft in america....i see that sony messed up with the price situation..if they would of did a $400 price..man it would be a different story in the console wars...i just believe those sony fans are taking their time purchasing the console primarily because of the price and games...microsoft i believe picked up some following from the sony fans and also nintendo probably picked some sony fans....but i got to work and thats my 2 cents!! :P

That's what I was implying. It should most certainly sell a lot of systems. I was just saying, if that's not the case, all hope is lost. I personally have no interest in games like these. Is GT a game for casuals, core games or a mix of both? If it usually appeals to casuals, you have to wonder just how much they're willing to spend on a system. The PS2 wasn't ridiculously priced like the PS3 and I have no problem assuming casual gamers are among the many people who simply don't care about something like blu-ray this early on.

And honestly, if the PS3 doesn't pick up sales this holiday season, don't expect FF13 to stay on the PS3.

==> I agree.
Same for MGS : bad sales for the PS3 version will accelerate the release of the Xbox360 version.

You dont even know if there is going to be a 360 version and if sales dont pick up for the PS3 during Christmas i would be surprised seeing as its the PS3 FIRST Christmas in Europe.

FFXIII has to stay on PS3 otherwise making the White Engine would have been pointless as it can ONLY work on the PS3 because it uses 4 of the 7 SPE's available to developers.They would have to make a whole new engine to run it on the 360 and that costs MORE AND MORE money. 

Good point, regarding the Europe Christmas for the PS3. That is their primary market right now.

And Europe prefer the PS3 to 360 most of the time except for the UK which is X360's second best place and ONLY other country(apart from the US(I think)) on its own that has a X360 user base above a million.

I have a feeling that if there is not a price cut in Europe, the PS3 holiday sales are going to be quite dissapointing. It'd seem logical to wait and just ask for cash or gift cards in anticipation of a price drop. Everyone seems to assume there will be one, and Sony would be stupid not to but you never know.