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Nonquihote said:
ceres said:
grimygunz said:
Boken 360 systems will lead to more ps3 purchases and more 360's for sale on Ebay.

With a free 3 year warranty, why would that happen? Most people with a 360 seem quite happy with their available games despite issues with the system for them to give up completely because of it. Hell, being burnt by the 360 hardware issues may cause people to be warry of dropping $500 or more on another system that could potentially have problems of its own. Especially since the PS2 isn't acknowledged as being a lasting piece of equipment.


 Must be fun having to replace $400 electronics 5 times a year.  They get a fixed 360 back they sale it on ebay or ebgames and get a PS3.  My Ps2 has been working for 8 year now and still going, it was a launch model.


PS2 hasn't even been out 7 years yet technically.



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ceres said:
grimygunz said:
Boken 360 systems will lead to more ps3 purchases and more 360's for sale on Ebay.

With a free 3 year warranty, why would that happen? Most people with a 360 seem quite happy with their available games despite issues with the system for them to give up completely because of it. Hell, being burnt by the 360 hardware issues may cause people to be warry of dropping $500 or more on another system that could potentially have problems of its own. Especially since the PS2 isn't acknowledged as being a lasting piece of equipment.

I have a PS3 and a 360. my 360 came with a bad Hard drive 2 and half months ago and MS has yet to send me a working Hard Drive. Im gunna Sell my 360 to get a Wii the first chance i Get as it is a waste of time with thier customer service. and if i cant find a Wii ill just get a DS with the R4 and get another PSP Slim and lite when thats out for legit firmwares

 



PS3 will sell over 7 million, but will not reach 8 million by the end of the year



 

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LeroyBrown said:
Bodhesatva said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Soriku said:
And I forgot to say that Capcom said they might bring RE5 to Wii if RE: UC does well :P They said it won't come in 08 so 09 which is plenty of time to make it for the Wii.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Capcom hasnt said anything like that .


Yeah, Diomedes is right, although it's important to note that Capcom did say that they would bring more Resident Evil games to the Wii if UC did well. That doesn't mean RE5, it just means more Resident Evil. Perhaps 6? Who knows, but 5 is extremely unlikely.


Didn't Capcom downgrade RE4 to port it to the much more popular PS2? If the margin of graphics between the Wii and 360 are narrower than those of the PS2 and GC (I could be entirely wrong in that though), I don't think its impossible for RE5 or RE6 to come to the weaker Wii. No way the Wii would be getting that at the same time though if that was the case, we'd be seeing the game comming out a year later at best. Either way, no sense in making predictions when nothing has been said for how long since the game was announced.


Yeah, you are wrong.  The gap between Wii and 360/PS3 is far greater than Wii to PS2, much less the GC.  Again, the Wii is about as powerful as the first Xbox. 



Funny how so many Sony fanboys get irritated by baseless rumors of MGS4 going 360, yet have no trouble whasoever believing the PS3 will cut its price by $200-300 by this Christmas.

If PS3 sales continue as they have, maybe a little accelerated for the price drop/fire sale, it should be between 5-6 million by the time we hit November. I'm not sure it can sell more than 2-3 million during the holidays, though.

The 360, if it has a price drop (and it damn well should), I can see at 11-12 million before the holidays, and selling another 3-4 during, since it should have plenty of supplies and $100-200 on the PS3.

The Wii will only be contrained by supply. I have to assume there is some stockpiling by stores and by Nintendo, but how much is anyone's guess. At current rates, it should add another 3 million by November, getting it to 11 million (more than that if supplies allow, partly due to the release of Mario Galaxy). If there is no supply boost, it'll just add 2 million during November/December, but if supply lines open up, I could see up to 5 million added on.



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windbane said:
LeroyBrown said:
Bodhesatva said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Soriku said:
And I forgot to say that Capcom said they might bring RE5 to Wii if RE: UC does well :P They said it won't come in 08 so 09 which is plenty of time to make it for the Wii.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Capcom hasnt said anything like that .


Yeah, Diomedes is right, although it's important to note that Capcom did say that they would bring more Resident Evil games to the Wii if UC did well. That doesn't mean RE5, it just means more Resident Evil. Perhaps 6? Who knows, but 5 is extremely unlikely.


Didn't Capcom downgrade RE4 to port it to the much more popular PS2? If the margin of graphics between the Wii and 360 are narrower than those of the PS2 and GC (I could be entirely wrong in that though), I don't think its impossible for RE5 or RE6 to come to the weaker Wii. No way the Wii would be getting that at the same time though if that was the case, we'd be seeing the game comming out a year later at best. Either way, no sense in making predictions when nothing has been said for how long since the game was announced.


Yeah, you are wrong. The gap between Wii and 360/PS3 is far greater than Wii to PS2, much less the GC. Again, the Wii is about as powerful as the first Xbox.


 Yep, it's much closer to the Super Nintendo/Neo Geo or PS1/3D0 gap. That was a very big one, and you couldn't port games from 3D0 to PS1 etc.



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i expect the ps3 to be in the same area that the 360 was in last year..



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Bodhesatva said:
windbane said:
LeroyBrown said:
Bodhesatva said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Soriku said:
And I forgot to say that Capcom said they might bring RE5 to Wii if RE: UC does well :P They said it won't come in 08 so 09 which is plenty of time to make it for the Wii.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Capcom hasnt said anything like that .


Yeah, Diomedes is right, although it's important to note that Capcom did say that they would bring more Resident Evil games to the Wii if UC did well. That doesn't mean RE5, it just means more Resident Evil. Perhaps 6? Who knows, but 5 is extremely unlikely.


Didn't Capcom downgrade RE4 to port it to the much more popular PS2? If the margin of graphics between the Wii and 360 are narrower than those of the PS2 and GC (I could be entirely wrong in that though), I don't think its impossible for RE5 or RE6 to come to the weaker Wii. No way the Wii would be getting that at the same time though if that was the case, we'd be seeing the game comming out a year later at best. Either way, no sense in making predictions when nothing has been said for how long since the game was announced.


Yeah, you are wrong. The gap between Wii and 360/PS3 is far greater than Wii to PS2, much less the GC. Again, the Wii is about as powerful as the first Xbox.


Yep, it's much closer to the Super Nintendo/Neo Geo or PS1/3D0 gap. That was a very big one, and you couldn't port games from 3D0 to PS1 etc.


yeah, except the PS3 will have sold more than twice as much as the Neo Geo and 3DO ever did combined by the end of the year.

This situation is unprecedented. 



Soriku said:
And I forgot to say that Capcom said they might bring RE5 to Wii if RE: UC does well :P They said it won't come in 08 so 09 which is plenty of time to make it for the Wii.

hahahaah... that's a good one. Are they going to make RE5 run off the RE4 engine??? In that case MSG4 and Final Fantasy 13 will be on the Wii also. Please show me the source to that interview or comment on RE5. I doubt the Wii can handle any AAA ports from the PS3 or xbox360. Maybe a RE5 spin-off though.

 

Anyways, I'm not a fanboy by any means. I own all systems except for a wii and i will probably pick one up when zelda gets released. But your first post clearly shows that you do not know enough of what you are talking about. The PS3 has more than 2 anticipated games this year, and LAIR isn't even one of them. Also, the point that you are not counting any multiplatform games is just ignorance. You talk as if noone is going to get a PS3 for Assassins creed, GTA4, or anyother big titles. Now don't get me wrong, i'm not saying the PS3 will outsell the wii or 360 this year. But my main point is that you do not know enough about Sony's lineup to start making reasonable predictions or validations to your point. I'm not really sure whether you are a fanboy or just  ignorant (or both), but you should atleast give better reasons so people will actually take your post seriously.



windbane said:
Bodhesatva said:
windbane said:
LeroyBrown said:
Bodhesatva said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Soriku said:
And I forgot to say that Capcom said they might bring RE5 to Wii if RE: UC does well :P They said it won't come in 08 so 09 which is plenty of time to make it for the Wii.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Capcom hasnt said anything like that .


Yeah, Diomedes is right, although it's important to note that Capcom did say that they would bring more Resident Evil games to the Wii if UC did well. That doesn't mean RE5, it just means more Resident Evil. Perhaps 6? Who knows, but 5 is extremely unlikely.


Didn't Capcom downgrade RE4 to port it to the much more popular PS2? If the margin of graphics between the Wii and 360 are narrower than those of the PS2 and GC (I could be entirely wrong in that though), I don't think its impossible for RE5 or RE6 to come to the weaker Wii. No way the Wii would be getting that at the same time though if that was the case, we'd be seeing the game comming out a year later at best. Either way, no sense in making predictions when nothing has been said for how long since the game was announced.


Yeah, you are wrong. The gap between Wii and 360/PS3 is far greater than Wii to PS2, much less the GC. Again, the Wii is about as powerful as the first Xbox.


Yep, it's much closer to the Super Nintendo/Neo Geo or PS1/3D0 gap. That was a very big one, and you couldn't port games from 3D0 to PS1 etc.


yeah, except the PS3 will have sold more than twice as much as the Neo Geo and 3DO ever did combined by the end of the year.

This situation is unprecedented.


I was only talking graphics, Windbane, since that was what you were talking about. I guess you don't like the comparison to the 3D0 and the Neo Geo? Let's repeat:

Windbane: "The graphical gap between the Wii and 360/PS3 is quite large."

Me: "Yes, I agree. The graphical gap is much closer to the gap between the Neo Geo/SNES or the PS1/3D0."

Windbane: "The PS3 has sold more than either of those!"

How is that relevant? Clearly you're just irked that the PS3 has similarities to the 3D0 and Neo Geo. It does: in fact, not only are all graphical leaps, but they all retailed originally for 600 dollars. I absolutely agree that there are differences between these systems (no two systems are ever exactly alike, after all), but you don't need to get annoyed any time someone makes a comparison.



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