Showertea did. Still, I don't see DMJ's point - the gameplay > graphics argument simply means there are other things more important than graphics, not that they're worthless. You can say the HD fanboys claiming graphics are everything, therefore the Wii is inferior are hypocrites too, since they aren't playing on a PC (which looks better than the HD consoles).

Either way, there are idiot fanboys on all sides, no need to put them in the spotlight all the time.

It's not so much that we're comparing them to PS3/X360 but many people and media, and even developers, claimed Wii simply coudln't do those things.  This is why The Conduit's graphics are getting so much recognition because according to so many the Wii isn't supposed to be able to do that.

Remember that one developer claiming Wii couldn't do shaders?  While we do enjoy gameplay over graphics, it still sucks to hear bullshit comments like that and then ahve a million fanboys repeat it over and over again.  So that when a game like the Contuit comes along, it's not just about it actually looking good but feeding the morons a nice helping of crow meat.

As for the X360/PS3 comparisons, blame that on the media.  How many articles have you read that have line like, "At first I thought it was an X360 game" somewhere in it?   Because those guys have had hands on expereince with the game, many Wii gamers have taken their word for it (just like many X360/PS3 gamers took the media and developers word for it that Wii couldn't do shaders).

I hope that helps make sense of things for you.

YEAH, YEAH... the visuals were good but what we wanna know was whose the publisher! >:|

We're waiting for 2 weeks already to knew whose the publisher and high Voltage still didnt tell whose the publisher. Will this game even published?!!

That's the truth, but articles like IGN's E3 The Conduit hand's on article talk about people walking by and asking them if it was a 360 game.  And when compared to the early 360 games which were essentailly just barely upgraded Xbox games most of the time it does look like a 360 game cause essentially Wii is a upgrade from Xbox.  Get it?  People saw similar graphics early in 360's life so people see The Conduit and at a quick glance it could come off as HDish graphics.

It's not a 360 or PS3 game by any means but people like to bash people that bring up that fact, but honestly if you got anyone that had never heard of the Conduit let them walk past it randomly on a show floor usually they'll ask if it's a 360 game until they see someone playing with a Wii remote.  Not to mention the fact that most of these people are also used to seeing the Wii games looking barely upgraded from GC/PS2.

I've never seen someone seriously say it was as good as a 360 game but it is a good point to make that it has been confused for a 360 game cause that means the Wii can do a lot more then so called "experts" in the field have said, which most likely is an excuse to not push the hardware and also so they can peddle their shovelware without backlash.  Anyway it's a great looking Wii game and people should quit hounding it, it's got some polish left to go, if it's going to be anything it should be constructive saying what it needs to improve on instead of saying the game looks like "meh" "ass" "average" "crap" etc that isn't adding anything to the discussion at all.

I don´t like the water :S, other than that looks ok :P

okay, saw the video, here's my question.

Why are enemies standing in the open shooting at you and not moving? Where's AI in this?

@kingofwale

It's been mentioned before many times, all demos are done with the easy setting.  Go look at the demo level from the Nintendo summit to show off the AI of the easy level.  Still set on easy but not as easy as most the videos make it out to be.

its not visuals are important.
they are part of a bigger piece.

sony was always the underdown til this generation.

any wii fanboy that say they are not important they better hope they weren't the ones saying the GC was superior or the ps2 or n64 to ps1 due it graphics.

that pure hyprocrisy, this game its looking like must buy but i think it need some work before release.
im hoping for local multiplayer and better antialiasing.

Wii fanboys aren't claiming they aren't important. Wii bashers are claiming Wii fanboys are claiming that.

okay, saw your post history, here's my question

why are you in a nintendo thread? Dont you hate all nintendo stuff?

jk