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Kwaad said:

 Ahh, your right. I made one small remark about the Wii being SD as long as SD is still there, and then starting a gradual progression to full HD, as the general public moves to HD. I'm so sorry I said the Wii is doing the best for it's sales. Ban me please! I broke the rules! I'm so sorry. *sob* Hawk you are so cool for pointing that out. I hope you reported the thread for me.


Whoa there.  I never mentioned reporting anyone or calling for someone to be banned.  I just wish conversations you were part of, didn't often become 'how the Wii is inferior'.  Though, I'll give you this you have to deal with plenty of people slamming the PS3 too.  I just wish there was a more respectful rivalry and common appreciation for games.  I might be wrong, but I feel it used to be that way in the past, when it was Sega vs. Nintendo.

 And how is Plasma superior to LCD?  For my information.  I'll look into it myself later as well.  But, I'll be looking into a new TV here soon myself, to replace my 59" Sony HD Rear Projection TV that I burned an image into, heh.  My bad.  Costs too much to fix it, rather just get another TV  ::grin::.  On top of me wanting a new big screen for a brighter screen.  I hate that when the house is well lit, I can't see my TV screen too wel (without burning an image into it, hehe)



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Haven't seen this brought up yet browsing through the responses but well did you ever explain how the market with the highest HDTV concentration in the world is also the market where the HD consoles get outsold by the most in the world how does that point to a Wii2 in 3 years? Secondly just checking some of your facts with Walmarts website they seem to have about 66 TV's listed 21 of which are SDTV and the majority of those come with digital tuners and are all on the smaller size like Happysquirrel mentioned in addition they do not offer any plasmas under 37" and their top sellers (Top 10) are all the cheaper version of LCD TV's and all in the $500-600 range one of them in fact is a SDTV their number 3 top selller. Anyways just curious if you have an explanation for those things or just noticed that when you went into walmart and its a totally subjective experience that you extrapolated into something you wanted it to mean.



Kwaad said:

IGN: Is Twilight Princess the last Zelda Wii game?
Shigeru Miyamoto: It's really hard to say, we've never had a zelda that has appeared so early in the life cycle of the system. Umm. So it's defiantly possible that there will be another zelda on Wii...the uhh... course the challenge is that typically a zelda game takes around 3 years so we will have to wait and see.

Kinda funny, the way that is worded. not really

EDIT: this is not taken out of context. That is the entire responce. Word for word. Well now it is :)


There, fixed it for you. He CLEARLY said Wii, so your previous assertion was either BS or you have "selective hearing". I encourage everyone to listen to Miyamoto's answer for themselves.

As for Laser TV, I don't know why you'd recommend it to anyone if they're "in the market today". It doesn't look like it will available before late 2008/early 2009 at best. The company behind all the initial hype (Arasor) looked to put on a show of smoke and mirrors (in Australia) to entice investors . Not much has actually eventuated since, and the vast majority of the larger manufacturers have denied any future plans for it. Only recently was it given some credibility from an announcement by Mitsubishi and a demo by Choherent ... it does look really nice though .

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i agree with ray007



Kwaad said:
superchunk said:
Well...being that HDtv is supposed to be 100% broadcast in the States by 2009, it makes sense that SDtv's would be scarce to none right now.

 Nope. 100% digital, not HD. :)


Technically true. However, by 2009 all the digital cables and satellites will probably have near 100% HD anyways. Plus, Wii looks just find on an HD set so what do I care. I will buy my HDtv when there is enough content and still be playing Wii on a LCD HDtv.



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I hate to say it, but it all stems from Wii Envy



Kwaad said:

I was at wal-mart the other day, and spent about 2 hours looking at their TVs. I was amazed I saw HDTVs from 200$ Up to 1500$. What amazed me more, was I saw a 42inch LCD HDTV for 950$. As I was leaving I noticed something major. The smallest TVs were HDTVS. The biggest were HDTVs. The cheapest were HDTVs. And the most expensive were HDTVs. Wait. Where's the SDTVs?!?!

My local wal-mart no-longer sells SDTVs. HDTV is here, HDTV is today. It is no longer the future.

EDIT: HDTV is still the future as well, but it is also the present.


So what I'm assuming here (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that your Walmart didn't have any tube televisions.  Virtually all tube TVs are standard definition but many new ones have digital tuners built in.

From Walmart's website, they do not carry any tube HD tube TVs:
http://www.walmart.com/search/browse-ng.do?ic=12_0&ref=125875.331180+500920.4293837039
(I hope the link works) 

Regarding HD usage, here's what I posted previously "In the past eight years, about a third of US households have purchased a tv capable of displaying high definition television.  "A new CEA study, HDTV: You Have the Set, But Do You Have the Content?, found that 44 percent of HDTV owners receive HD programming. The main reasons consumers stated for not receiving the programming was that it was too expensive or they were not interested."  So they own the sets, but really aren't interested in HD.  I wonder why they bought them. ;)  There are some other useful facts in this article here:

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/15190/hd-tv-guide/

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Kwaad is right shams the samsung LCDs kick ass. The new M8 and R8 series.

They beefed up the stats on these:
Full HD 1080P
Contrast Ratio 15,000:1
Brightness 550nits

and they cost liek $3400 in Australia.



LCD sucks man the screen is plastic, lighting can fry it, plasma tv's are the ones you need.



 

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I'm gonna miss CRTs, there is one thing they do better than LCDs and Plasmas. When they get an SD signal it looks good, when they get a Hi-Def signal it looks equally good (so long as it's a Hi-def CRT). The new LCDs and Plasmas make a SD signal look like raw arse when it looks acceptable on an older set, I suppose they could fix this with some sort of filter? I don't know, but I know I'm none too happy with that aspect. Furthermore why does a 720p signal look better on a 720p TV vs a 1080p TV, they need to fix this before I'm ready to spend my cash on them. Oh and black levels, I think Plasma is in fact better than a CRT on that but LCDs kinda suck, with their super gray but not quite black. Oh well, I know I'll eventually get a HD set once they come down in price, hopefully by then they will have resolved some of these issues. I actually look foward to powering up some BRHDDVD movies and maybe getting a PS3 or 360 to go along with it. But it's gonna be awhile. Okay I'm done ranting.