Wait a second. Dragon Quest Swords is a spinoff. It's in the name in case you missed it, Dragon Quest Swords....

Where does it say this game is a spinoff in any way shape or form?

Also we know Dragon Quest Swords is being made by the C-team because they are making the actual Dragon Quest sequel on DS. This game has no relation to Katamari except that it's from the same creator and company. I thought this would be easy to understand but apparently not. 

I agree, I'm sure the same attitude is being shown towards Soul Caliber Legends even though it is, if I've read correctly, being made by some of Namco's best people including the director of the traditional SC games.

Is Soul Calibur Legends not a spin off? Is the real Soul Calibur game, the fighting game sequel, not going to other consoles and not the Wii? That is the definition of a spin off. 

The creator of DQ, created DQ. DQ is his brain-child. DQ:Swords, just becuase his name is on it, is it his brain child as well? What I mean is, did he create it? Or did he tell someone else what he wanted, and it got his name? Let me give an example.

Halo was the brain-child of Alex Seropian. He left the studio he created as a result of the new work conditions/restrictions. He was NOT happy with Halo1 when it was released, He felt it was incomplete. (bungie) And as a result Halo2 showed. Halo2 was paled in comparison to the original, showing how imporant of a role he played in the creation of the original. Halo2 was nothing but a cash cow. The creator of halo did NOT create Halo2.

I can go on all day about games, and who makes them. I will say this much. If one of the big names that I love, make a game. Chances are I will buy it, and love it. As no matter what budget, no matter what the game is. They will always create a great game. Wether it be a new franchise, or a old one. Just becuase Bill Roper did an AMAZING job making the original Diablo, His name is on Diablo2 just as much as the first, but if you look at his job, he was not the man in charge. And I felt Diablo2 was crap compared to the original. I knew about flagship studios, the company he created within days of being announced. I like to keep tabs on the guys I like. I love the games they make. Just becuase his name is in the credits, does NOT mean he made the game. Just becuase he created the series does NOT mean he still creates the games.

I understand what you're saying but why is a spin off instantly associated with a drop in quality? It is true that if the Katamari team is working on a new PS3 game that there is every reason to hope that it will be of the same high quality as their previous project so why isn't the same assumed about SCL? Is a team unable to make 2 good games in different genres set in the same universe?

I own Mario Strikers, is it a spin-off? Yes. Is it a good game? Damn straight it is.

I don't know why you didn't notice the little winkey face ( ;) ) that I put at the end of the sentence.  It means "Don't take very word in the previous sentence literally. It is meant for humour value with perhaps a kernel of truth."

In other words, I was making light of the double standards that many PS3 owners tend to employ. If you wish to take each word completely literally and attack the semantics of my post rather than the meaning, then fine, go ahead. I can't argue with you there. But if you would take the time toread the intent of my post without attacking the semantics (which many other people have managed) then you will find yourself attacked less often.

And don't think I agree with that viewpoint anyway. Give me completely original games over tired sequels of well known franchises any day. I was simply showing the inherant double standards.

Nope, he didn't work one the last either, the PSP one, which may be why it wasn't anywher near as good as the first 2. I am quite excited about this game, hopefully Takahashi stays true to his concept of making games that are simple, silly fun.

I never mentioned a spin off automatically means quality lost, but I can't think of a spin off right now that was better than the original game or series. This doesn't mean it can't be good of course. I expect RE: UC and Mario Strikers to be good games and they are spin offs, still if I had to choose I would rather have Mario Galaxy and RE 5. The main series are better.

Beyond that, I don't like companies using a brand name on a multitude of totally different games. If they come up with God of War table tennis I would not be very happy with that naming or theme.

Also, I don't have too high expectations from SCL after Dead to Rights a similar venture from the same company done with the Tekken franchise before, but I can't write it off till I actually play it I could be totally off. Still the Soul Calibur game that I want most is IV not Legends. 

Yeesh, this thread has already seen it's fair amount of hyperbole. But anyways, am I the only one that remembers when Namco Bandai made the announcement that the PS3 wasn't selling as well as they'd hoped? In that press release they included the amount of games they were developing for each system. 

The company sure does make a hell of a lot of games! but the PS3 was seeing the least at 26. The Wii number was something like 42, and even the Xbox was getting somewhere in the 30's. Of course I'm sure many of those games were just in the planning stages with one or two people working on them. 

So regardless of this announcement, the Wii is seeing the most namco bandai support and the PS3 is seeing the least, but all platforms are still being fairly well supported

Looks like a cool game. Why did this turn into a spin off thread??