Actually, this thread is not political at all...

last night I had a thread about bipartisan politics, and it was locked by Montana Hatchet. We have had some emails back and forth, and it's been told to me that I can now repost the thread (montana was also very gracious in his last email response, and I thank him very much for how he responded to it all).

The problem is, I don't want to post it. I know that as soon as I do, it will case a complete polar series of responses. Some people will say they agree with me 100%, and other will say I am as far from where this country needs to be as one can get.

The thing I hate most about where this country is, is that attitude. Gone is the day where people with different opinions of the world can sit together, and find common ground. We are a polarized nation, and I think that alone, is the beginning of the end. When intelligent people can no longer discuss important issue without it degrading to the position of finger pointing, what positive thing can possibly be conceived?

This country (and I mainly blame the media) has become filled with hate. People overlook the shortcomings of candidates who aline with there personal views, and vilify the candidates who views differ.

It is without question, this country that both Obama and McCain fight for. The level of dedication both men put forth is unbelievable. Both men have spent there lives in the service of others. Both men are as much a patriot of this country, then anyone reading this. Why then do we resort to the name calling, and the bickering that we do when we speak of these two people?

What we disagree on is ideology, and to be honest, both mine and yours can probably learn from each other, but we never will if all we continue to do is point fingers at each other and name call. No, I will not repost the thread I was given permission to repost, as all it will do is continue two groups of people who love this country very much, down a continuos path of self destruction. I love everything this country, and its people, stand for way to much to be a catalyst to such unhealthy behavior.

I grow tired of it, and I hope some of you feel the same way.

Please tell me when that time was so I can go back in time? the 60's 70's 80's 90's

was it during slavery, when women couldnt vote, segration time. I love to know when was this country so united.

Um, I think he is right to an extent PSrock...

I think it got really bad when the republicans went after clinton... The dems then did everything they could to destroy Bush, and do whatever it takes to get revenge.

The system is broken. Example. The Dems after the crisis started all wall street let out a state ment it was not their fault.. my ass it was not. Same with the republicans, fingerpointed.

John McCain got it right, he said it was a Wall Street, and a WASHINTON problems. I did not here him say it was not the Reb, or whatever. Yea, he put some on Obama, but he included himself when he said a WASHINGTON problem.

What did Obama do? The same Partison BS, Blame it on Bush... it has work so many times as of late... (Katrina, Iraq, Economy, etc)

Am I to think that this is a new leaf that could be turned over on this forum? Or will this simply be a hope lost to the wind? Change starts somewhere, might as well be here.

It is a complete myth that people with different opinions have ever gotten along that well. Conflict has been a normal part of every political system since the dawn of modern civilization.

Its not that people can't be civil, its just that people feel pretty strongly about the things they believe in. I am only bothered by it when people make haphazard and incomplete arguments supporting what they claim to be correct.

Over the summer I lived with a diehard free market Republican who thought the homeless deserved to be homeless and everybody who wasn't rich was stupid and lazy, and the government shouldn't fund research into AIDS or cancer or have art grants or educational grants or a space program or anything because everything in life should all come from a free market, no matter how long it takes. He thought anti-trust laws were a necessary EVIL and that marriage should be a religion-only matter, so that not only can gays not get married (even in gay churches? that part wasn't clear), atheists shouldn't be allowed to get married, and everybody should get civil unions from the government unless they're having a religious wedding. He also thought homeless people had it pretty good (he had never had to step over a dead homeless person before).

Considering I'm the most liberal person on the VGChartz according to that one graph, you might think I buried this guy in my basement, but we actually got along pretty damn well when we didn't talk about politics or art. In fact, after trying to discuss art with him, discussing politics was a breath of fresh air.

I don't think your thread last night was about bipartisanship. The title alone was offensive and very partisan.