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Interview between 1up and Gabe Newell:

1UP: That's not bad. I think it's time for the 360 crowd to catch up. Are you going to do it for PSN as well?

GN: No.

1UP: No?

Lombardi: We don't have PlayStation developers, so....

1UP: And EA won't help out on that front?

GN: No. They're not doing ongoing development on The Orange Box for the PS3.

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3170080



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markers said:
first off the 360 was just as complicated to program for in its beginning stages so that statement was unneccessary. and 2 if valve is making updates for the other versions they should atleast help EA by telling them what they are updating so they can take care of it. so there for the blame goes back to valve

 

Always count on a console fanboy to not be able to tell what a good game is. Then again I can't blame them, they have been so much crap with the FPSes they have on the consoles that there's no chance they will know a good FPS if it hit them between the eyes with a bat multiple times. They'd still be staring at Gears or Halo or Resistance.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

markers said:
first off i played hl2 in 2005 on the computer. i only played it because of all the hype/awards for the game that i had heard/read. and so it greatly disappointed me.

unreal tournament >> hl2
quake 4 >> hl2
doom 3 >> hl2
far cry (although barely) > hl2

 

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twesterm said:
None of your options - they don't have the manpower.

 

I agree with that. It's unfortunate for PS3 owners, and I wish they were getting Left 4 Dead, but people who are flaming Valve for this, as a company, obviously don't know what they're talking about. Valve is one, if not the best and most thorough developers of all time. They don't put bad stuff out the door. If they think it might take them a year to get the PS3 version of a game they've already developed, right, then they'll skip it. Valve are PC developers, they develop on the PS3. If you want an efficient PS3 development timeframe, you need to develop for the PS3 first, and then port. I think Valve doesn't like that.

Now, I care that people don't get to play these games, and I wish they were on the PS3, but like PS3 fans told me when I said I wished I could play WKS and Verses(but in a much nicer manner): Buy a 360. They're 199. Or...even better, just play them on your PC.

Acting like Valve makes bad games is acting like Uwe makes good movies.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

markers said:
first off i played hl2 in 2005 on the computer. i only played it because of all the hype/awards for the game that i had heard/read. and so it greatly disappointed me.

unreal tournament >> hl2
quake 4 >> hl2
doom 3 >> hl2
far cry (although barely) > hl2

 

I honestly missed this and I just need to comment on it as well. Next thing I hear from you will be:

Halo2,3>hl2

Gears of war > hl2

Resistance > hl2

Killzone > hl2

I think ssj12 expressed my reaction perfectly when I first read that post.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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markers said:
first off i played hl2 in 2005 on the computer. i only played it because of all the hype/awards for the game that i had heard/read. and so it greatly disappointed me.

unreal tournament >> hl2
quake 4 >> hl2
doom 3 >> hl2
far cry (although barely) > hl2

 

Doom 3? Really? I respect your opinion and everything, but exactly how far in did you get on Half-Life 2, lol. I think The Orange Box, even without Portal, is one of my greatest experiences in gaming, and I freankin' hate FPS, lol.

I'm not trying to troll you, or hate on your opinion, or anything, but can I ask you, just exactly how far in did you get with HL2, and why didn't you like it? I would appreciate a brief review, you can PM it to me if you want. I'm not flaming you, but I just have always been interesting in this sort of thing, when people tell me the opposite of what I believe to be true, lol, and I just wanted to ask you.

PS: I also hated Far Cry.

So yeah, HL2, how far you get in, and can you explain why you didn't like it?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Excuse my language:

Fuck valve.



DMeisterJ said:
Excuse my language:

Fuck valve.

Also, see above post interview for why Valve is incapable of producing content for EA's product.



Dolla Dolla said:
DMeisterJ said:
Excuse my language:

Fuck valve.

Also, see above post interview for why Valve is incapable of producing content for EA's product.

Wy does everyone call me an attention whore?  lol.



DMeisterJ said:
Excuse my language:

Fuck valve.

 

I'm gonna need you to explain yourself on that one.

Why is it that people feel developers are obligated to particularly give the PS3 equal treatment, but they laugh when the Wii, or last gen the Gamecube, got the shaft.

I feel like it was an act of congress I missed when they declared that all consoles were created equal. If it takes them 5 months to work up a PS3 version that might not sell to cover expenses, should they do it anyway to appease owners of that system for future projects? Or, instead, should they simply do a quick and easy 360 port to squeeze some development funds out of the game and avoid the money sink on the console that's not been, and frankly is not going to be, a main source of income for them.

I understand your anger toward the company because you want the PS3 to do well, but you have to understand their view of it as well. They're not playing fanboy wars, and I swear that Valve is one of the few companies that probably values quality over profit(or at least values them equally, because they go hand in hand). They won't styme themselves for several months on PS3 development because of several factors, a major one being that it's boring and repetitive. It's stepping backwards, not moving forward. I wish they would create a new team to move their stuff to the PS3, but I doubt that would be cost effective, since they pride themselves in only putting good stuff out of their doors, and not halfassing ports like EA did.

 

Also, tangent, why is Left 4 Dead not as hyped as it should be? I bet if it was on the PS3 and PC, instead of 360PC, it would be on every other post. Just an observation. Left 4 Dead is underhyped.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.