Realistically, no.

But I think Sony will finish on a fine spot above Microsoft. But still a distance from Nintendo.

PS3 FTW

 Wii is already 17 million ahead of PS3, and continues to sell at leat double what PS3 does. If that continues it will mean that in order for PS3 to win it needs double the lifecycle of Wii AND needs continued relatively high sales.

Of course this won't happen, since Wii will be on the market for a looooong time, simple because it's successful (hell, it's still sold out in places and definitely will be coming holidays).

Even if PS3 will have a 10 year cycle, which will be risky for Sony if Microsoft launces its new console way earlier,  it won't make up the difference with Wii in 3 years. PS3 sales will obviously decline after a year or 5 (so will Wii's and 360's) and Wii will probably at least 7 years on the market.

Anything is possible I guess...but the Wii's lead has gotten way too overwhelming. BTW people like myself have been saying that the Wii is not in battle with PS3 before it even came out (I wasn't even doing it because I thought it would beat out PS3 sales - no one did). I guess it could depend on how fast Blu Ray is adopted and if a slim line PS3 comes a lot earlier in the life cycle.

The Wii is not in competition with the PS3 or the 360 and is definitely not a 7th generation console.

Yes, the PS3 has a very good chance at winning the console war.

The PlayStation 3 is in much the same position as the Commodore 64 was in the late 1980s. It's top-of-the-line for what it does and its next-best competitor is working hard against it, but both of them are getting their clocks cleaned by an outdated "crappy product" designed for "non-consumers". And funnily enough, the parallels don't end there...

Back in 1987, Commodore 64 and Amiga were considered THE systems to own and play on by the gaming "elite" of the time. All of the big PC developers had thrown in their lot with either one or both of these systems, and nobody in the industry could understand how this little gray TV-dependent box called the Nintendo Entertainment System was selling so well without those developers supporting it. But the PC gaming industry figured it was plenty healthy, and didn't need to worry about the NES.

Jump forward a few years, and the Amiga and C64 were on their last legs as gaming systems. Desperate attempts were made to make them viable competitors with the NES, but it just didn't work. NES users didn't want Amiga or C64, and what Amiga and C64 gamers remained didn't want the NES or any of its style. The PC market imploded handily, and the console market the NES started exploded.

The intervening years are well known, of course (the re-emergence of the PC gaming market parallel to the console market, their slow melding into one, and the constant upscaling of graphics and processor power that followed). But the original division is what's important to look at, because we're seeing the exact same symptoms again. An outdated system hardware-wise with no "real" third-party support is a rising star amongst the "real" systems, and the urge to dismiss it out of hand only gets more intense as that rising star grows brighter and bigger.

At this point I'm not sure if the PS3 can win.  I do believe that the gap between the PS3 and Wii will probably be less than what many believe(30-50million).  Once the PS3 can get itself to a critical $299(I'm guessing at latest mid to late next year) we are going to see a different side of Sony. I also think that total market might be something more like 300 million as opposed to about 160 or so.

I'm sure many are going simply discount me as being a fanboy who believes that X game will save the PS3, but i'm not thinking about any of thier core titles.   I'm thinking about Eyepet, Eyetoy Story and whatever else Sony Europe has on the drawing board.  Even if they simply copy most of their last gens titles they will make a reasonable competition for the Wii. Eyetoy Kinetic 2(Wii Fit), Eyetoy Play 4(Wii Play), Eyetoy EduKids 2(Brain Training), Eyetoy Play Sports 2(Wii Sports), Eyetoy Groove 2.  Offering future consumers a decent price point as well as great non-game and core software . Nintendo could feasibly lower thier price but given the demand for the system I'm not sure that would happen.  Now if they could simply learn to market and advertise themselves correctly(emphasizing the numbers in those titles to show that they aren't just copying Nintendo and show people having fun moving around) they may be able to drastically turn around thier market position and add a new facet to thier image that has been European only for far too long.

Will Sony win even if they have comparable marketshare or amazingly enough beat  Nintendo...Hell no.  Nintendo is making far too much money on hardware as well as software and posting profit the likes of which has never been seen in the industry.  However Sony can save face and come fighting really hard with the PS4 which will be cheap and powerful due to the scalable nature of much of the PS3 tech.  But I prefer it this way.  True Competition will make us consumers the real winners.

sigh... you really dont understand that powerPC is made by IBM. Apple purchased their processors from IBM. Meaning you are extremely wrong there.

The CELL is a modified powerPC processor with 8 semantic cores, for the PS3 one is disabled and another is set for the XMB OS. The 360's CPU while based on the PPC is actually designed in a similar fashion as AMD's phenon X3. The Wii's PPC is just a faster standard PPC. The reason I state that it is trickier to program for is due to the fact not many programmers played with an Apple II when they were kids so they don't have the background to full grasp coding for it unlike more modern architectures from Intel and AMD.

The reason for the original Xbox not getting a price cut was the horrid deal M$ made with Nvidia which made it so NVidia didn't have to shrink the GPU. The HDD had more to do with the ability to have a price cut since HDD prices were dropping. Still I was using the HDD as a technical difference versus a sales difference like starcraft seems to think.

Lionhead is one studio which will go the same way as ES and the rest of M$'s studios.

Braid and indie developers don't count as first party and neither do 3rd parties. Last time I checked 3rd party = not owned by a company but can have exclusives purchased.

Also don;t judge one's intelligence when you yourself failed to prove me wrong at all in your entire "redo" of my post.

nice try but you fail

This thread is out of control... the answer right now is NO... in the future we can reevaluate things if Sony starts selling 300k/mo

Of course because the Wii isn't a console and it's in another market. I heard people saying it was a toy. The Wii is in competition with Tickle Me Elmo and is dominating that market. The PS3 will win the console war.

the PS3 will be #2 this generation

basically

Wii
PS3
360

but if you include PC into the mix

PC
Wii
PS3
360