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US deserter in Canada wins stay of deportation

By ROB GILLIES

TORONTO (AP) — A U.S. Army soldier who fled to Canada after learning his unit was being deployed to Iraq won a last-minute stay of deportation Monday.

Federal Court Judge Richard Mosley ruled Jeremy Hinzman can stay in Canada while the court decides whether he can appeal his deportation order.

“We’re elated,” Hinzman said moments after the decision was released. “(But) we’re not out of the woods at all. We just have a stay of removal.”

Hinzman, 29, who holds the rank of specialist, was due to be deported Tuesday morning to the United States, where he is charged with fleeing to avoid duty in Iraq. He had served a tour in Afghanistan during his three years in the Army, but argues the Iraq war is immoral and illegal.

The Canadian government refused his family’s application to remain in Canada on humanitarian and compassionate grounds. Hinzman asked for the stay while the court decides if that decision should be reviewed.

In his three-page ruling, Mosley wrote, “Based on the evidence and submissions before me, I am satisfied that the applicants would suffer irreparable harm if a stay were not granted.”

Hinzman is likely to be court-martialed if he returns to the United States and could face up to five years in prison. Canada’s Border Services Agency ordered him last month to leave the country by Sept. 23.

Hinzman, who fled Fort Bragg, N.C., in January 2004, held a noncombat position in the 82nd Airborne Division because he applied for conscientious objector status before his unit left for Afghanistan in 2002.

The guy serve 3 years in Afghanistan already. He's noncombat so there's less likely that it's life threatening that he's running away from and more likely that he chose to run away due to his belief that the war was immoral and illegal.

So, it's okay to force people to fight against their disbelieves?

Should he be jailed?

Forcing him to go would be like sholving a gun into his hand and make him shoot random innocent people, no?



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No one forced him to join the Army. There wasn't a draft.

He needs to go or be jailed for it. He signed a contract and needs to live up to that commitment.

And he hasn't served three years in Afghanistan, the article said he served one tour in three years of being in the Army.




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I've been following Hinzman's case for a while.

I hope he and any other resisters are allowed to stay.



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stof said:
I've been following Hinzman's case for a while.

I hope he and any other resisters are allowed to stay.

So they can find easy ways to get out of a contract they willingly signed?

That's shitty diplomacy, stof. Those guys should be shipped right back to the US, just as any Canadian criminals should be shipped back to Canada. You open up a big can of worms by deciding what the US is or is not allowed to do with their own citizens, especially ones who the US felt have broken laws.

 




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I agree with Rocketpig. Irresponsible actions by a soldier are not lightly taken.



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No reason for this at all. He should abide by his contract. Now if he was stop-lossed (Go watch Stop Loss to see what Im talking about) then he can protest as his contract is up. But you can protest in other ways other than fleeing and being disgraced.



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luinil said:
I agree with Rocketpig. Irresponsible actions by a soldier are not lightly taken.

The entire backbone of the military is built on discipline and commitment. When you willingly sign a contract to fight for your country, you don't get to decide when or where you serve. That defeats the purpose.




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Can of worms be damned, it's the right thing to do.



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Bursche said:
No reason for this at all. He should abide by his contract. Now if he was stop-lossed (Go watch Stop Loss to see what Im talking about) then he can protest as his contract is up. But you can protest in other ways other than fleeing and being disgraced.

Agreed. Stop-lossing is entirely different. If the guy was stop-lossed, I might be more sympathetic but I suspect if that was his case, the article would mention it.

 




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stof said:
Can of worms be damned, it's the right thing to do.

IMO, the right thing for the US to do is to put up broadcast towers on the border and hand airtime to any "hate-filled" broadcaster who wants the right to voice their opinions to Canadian citizens. I think Canadian free speech laws are horribly wrong.

You wouldn't like that much, would you?

Respect for sovereignty is a two-way street. You can't go mucking about with your allies' citizens. That's a bit holier-than-thou, don't you think?




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