To put that in simplier terms, even though a couple of WRPGs have been smash hits on consoles, that is not enough to replace JRPG developers as dominant on consoles.  JRPGs are more successful overall than WRPGs.  Sounds suprising but not as suprising as you think.  This is because JRPGs while they are a complex genre in themselves, are still more accessible than the even more indepth WRPGs.

"To put that in simplier terms, even though a couple of WRPGs have been smash hits on consoles, that is not enough to replace JRPG developers as dominant on consoles. JRPGs are more successful overall than WRPGs. Sounds suprising but not as suprising as you think. This is because JRPGs while they are a complex genre in themselves, are still more accessible than the even more indepth WRPGs."

And they almost all tell better stories as well.

To all saying FF is the most important RPG series
Then what is Pokemon, a serie that generally sell +15 millions?

"No. In fact, Square-Enix could disappear off the face of the Earth and I wouldn't care at all. All they're doing these days is shoving out remakes and generic RPGs with battle systems that could be faithfully reproduced on an SNES."

That's odd. I thought Star Ocean IV, The Last Remnant, Final Fantasy XIII, Kingdom Hearts III, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Final Fantasy XIII Agito, Star Ocean 1, Dragon Warrior V and DQ VI were all new games (the last three at least new here in America).

What consoles have they appeared on previously?

You mean JRPGs tell better stories than WRPGs or vice versa?

If the former, I'll be shocked since many of the people I talk to here think that WRPGs have the better stories overall.

no fckn way ! square enix titles are not important at all.....
1:FF9

2:FF 10
3:FF tactics (gba)
4:FF 10-2

the above games were the best...i seek no interest in new square enix games again

"Hopefully nr 13 will fix that but the longer it takes for it to come out the more worried I get... FF12 took what 5 years to make? and it turned out real bad."

See my previous comments on this. Tell me what are your credentials for being properly able to judge these games are if the only one you've ever even played through to the end is XII.

That's like saying Wuthering Heights was awful because you don't like gothic novels that actually duplicate British dialects from the era in which they were written or saying I hate all Henry James' novels.  My teacher asked me to read one, and  I skimmed the first page and think everything he ever wrote sucks. Now, I'm going to get back to riding my skate board. When most critics of literature consider both Emily Bronte and Henry James to be excellent writers and you have no basis upon which to judge their works.

First: The vast majority of JRPGs are hardly complex. Most of them just involve trudging along the path to a set story and getting in some easy random battles on the way. The small minority of actually challenging JRPGs out there (the Megaten games come to mind) aren't even popular.

Second: Most JRPG stories are terrible, and they're told terribly. Tons and tons... and tons... and tons... of non-interactive text and cutscenes. Your average WRPG can at least tell a story competently - through branching dialogue trees, for example - even if the story itself isn't that great.

Not to sound like an ass, at least hopefully not, but your last post on VIII, X and XII was just a longer version of his comment that you bolded; An opinion.  The only difference is that a lot of people did indeed buy FFX.  There are obviously people that rent games before purchasing them.

On a side note - I find it funny that a thread like this pops up after Square Enix decides to go multi-plat with this title.

Anywho, I've thought for years that Final Fantasy has lost it's touch. They keep changing the game so much that it's not Final Fantasy anymore. It's a completely different RPG every time they release it. The title, to me, has lost all relevance as a dominant RPG.