there is a difference between classification and ability.

I can technically be classified, as can you, as an animal.

do i think humans belong in the same class as animals? do you?

A human CAN BE an animal, but we are just something slightly more than animals, although we are animals.

What's in a name is mostly marketing, and consumer application.

Video game consoles are toys.

Some can be used as media hubs/movie players, making the Wii a lot more focused as a game console, but then it has never been marketed as anything but a game player.

A minority of users are probably only using their PS3s as Blu-Ray/DVD upscalers, maybe even using the PSN video store, with little or no interest in games, so to these users it's a stereo system component.

A PC can be used to create content/productivity applications, or it can be used extensively for gaming.

So yes, a gaming rig would also be a toy, regardless of specs and computing capacity. Even the ones that cost more than workstations made specifically for doing actual productivity work rather than play.

Does labeling something a toy suddenly make it less "serious" or a less valid form of entertainment?

No.

Hahahaha.

You're nuts, dude.

PS3 isn't a videogames console.

You can play and store your music on it, you can play and store your movies on it. You can browse the web, fold cells and watch anything in hi definition on it. Check the weather and news on it. Use as a paper weight.

It also plays videogames, but just barely. So it's not a videogames console.

@prof              i agreed with previous posts but not this one

                       wii is a toy and a video game console. PS3 and 360 are consoles but not toys as their audience is hardcore but wii is                        more for casual gaming

Perhaps I didn't explain myself correctly. Let's try again:

*You quoted Miyamoto stating that Wii Music is a toy, not a video game.
*You then proceeded to claim that because of his position, he must know what he's talking about.
*I disputed that by saying that he is not allowed to make up his own definitions just because he's high up in a company. Therefore, I am DISAGREEING with his distinction of video games and toys.
I even went as far as saying that he probably had trouble putting into words how he feels about Wii Music. Of course, that's just speculation and I have no evidence to back that up. However, that's not important for my argument.
*In conclusion, I did not contradict myself. I still stand by what I said: a video game is a type of toy. A subdivision if you will.

if you are going to quote me, quote the whole post dont choose the parts that support your cause, how is "wii" titles the bulk of wii sales, discounting USA and others sales for wii sports, you will get someting like 20m - 25m sales, compare that to mario games, super smash brawl,twilight princess, then they will look balanced, you are really just making up your own rules on what should be toy and what should not be a toy now.

They are.

Some people just have a harder time coping with this than others. They feel the need to legitimize and justify games as a "serious" form of entertainment.

It's already bloomed into a huge revenue generating industry, ergo it is now legitimate, but still based upon play.

So, never underestimate the value of play, particularly when billions of dollars are collectively at stake.

lol i'm just following the logic in the same style that everyone is proudly displaying here.

guns are toys, so is wii and ps3 lol11!

so whats you point again?

Wow I'm going to get a good laugh all day from this...A toy is anything that give a person enjoyment so a car can be a toy a laptop can be a toy I rock can be a toy every single videogame is a toy...Except Superman 64...