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CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
@ S.T.A.G.E.

The only things that are mindless are your posts quit bing such a troll. Anyway back on topic, THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS - not S.T.A.G.E., I give respect to M$ for a victory and a job well done, though I don't like M$, but I do like the 360. However the real blindness comes from anybody who doesn't see that once FFXIII comes out, which as everybody (besides hater S.T.A.G.E.) knows really means nothing for 360 since in the region where M$ is trying to compete the game isnt even gonna be on the 360 (Japan), that one title alone will do better for PS3 than ALL of the JRPGs on the 360. Once PS3 gets JRPGs this will no longer be a topic of discussion. But yeah good job M$, but I'm waiting on FFXIII (PS3), White Knight Story, FF Versus XIII. I prefer to play JRPGs on the the system that is MOST personal to me and the one that I grew up with, Sony Playstation. And none of the current JRPGs on 360 interest me anyway.

 

I'm not a troll. I'm not a fanboy of Microsoft or Sony, but I will have both of their systems. It is you that takes criticism and attacks it even when facts are behind it. I don't like Microsoft like you, but I guess your observation skills are off. If you believe blindly that FFXIII being multiplatform was a bad idea thats YOUR PROBLEM (NOT THEIRS! THEY WILL DO IT BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN EXTENDED MARKET FOR IT). Many people who had the PS2, currently own the 360 (Ever thought of that?). I'M ONE OF THEM!!! I'll have a PS3 soon and will buy FFXIII and Versus on the PS3. I have no gripe with the multiplatform aspect because i have no emotion to coporations moves like you do. As you put that it was "PERSONAL" to you and you grew up with the company. I feel happy that they can expand and make more money when the genre (for now) has dwindled down in sales. Look at Final Fantasy sales since FFVII they were high, then a crazy flux and then plummeted before the PS2 took a back seat to the PS3, and now they are the lowest they've ever been. BLAME THIS ON THE 360 ALL YOU WANT!! NONE OF THE JRPG's ON THE 360 INTEREST YOU BECAUSE THEY ARENT EXCLUSIVE TO THE PS3.

 

OMG Wow you are so off but I'll put it to you like this : Tales Of Vesperia, a decent game not mind blowing. I don't like Infinite Undiscovery, Blue Dragon - lolololololol, and Lost Odyssey I played it and liked it but don't care to purchase it. I've been excited for White Knight, FFXIII - which as I said no matter what you think it was desperate for M$ to chase that and many people know it so say what you will, your existance has nothing to do with mine so I could care less what you think. As for Versus XIII how do you know why it remained exclusive? You post a lot of speculations then call them facts, I find you amusing at best, but I find nothing you say logical since it's full of mindless trolling. As for me I like all three of current gen systems. I just know the PS3 is the best investment I have ever made for a console. And then look at your avatar lol, yea nuff said.

 

I love Tekken. Yeah...Tekken was an arcade game before it was Sony exclusive. You keep ignoring the fact that I will have Tekken and as a result obviously have the PS3 as well. You demand loyalty from a consumer just because of established titles. Titles can go anywhere at anytime. GET OVER IT ! THE LOFTY DAYS OF GAMING ARE OVER. It's all business and politics now. Videogames are no longer as simplistic and fun as they used to be now that  Sony and Microsoft have joined the biz. You already admitted your emotional and chronological loyalty to Sony so really your words to sound logical are meaningless. Some times you must push your emotions aside to see the truth. I used to be emotional about games and merchendise until I took Economics (and loved it) and actually got into working in highschool. Sony will have shitty JRPG'S and XBOX 360 will have shitty JRPG's. VERSUS IS YOUR GUYS ONLY HOPE!! LINEAR AND ONE SIDED AS YOU GUYS ARE!! YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT BASED ON HISTORY THE ORIGINALS IN FINAL FANTASY ARE NEVER SURPASSED BY THE SIDE GAMES.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
@ S.T.A.G.E.

The only things that are mindless are your posts quit bing such a troll. Anyway back on topic, THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS - not S.T.A.G.E., I give respect to M$ for a victory and a job well done, though I don't like M$, but I do like the 360. However the real blindness comes from anybody who doesn't see that once FFXIII comes out, which as everybody (besides hater S.T.A.G.E.) knows really means nothing for 360 since in the region where M$ is trying to compete the game isnt even gonna be on the 360 (Japan), that one title alone will do better for PS3 than ALL of the JRPGs on the 360. Once PS3 gets JRPGs this will no longer be a topic of discussion. But yeah good job M$, but I'm waiting on FFXIII (PS3), White Knight Story, FF Versus XIII. I prefer to play JRPGs on the the system that is MOST personal to me and the one that I grew up with, Sony Playstation. And none of the current JRPGs on 360 interest me anyway.

 

I'm not a troll. I'm not a fanboy of Microsoft or Sony, but I will have both of their systems. It is you that takes criticism and attacks it even when facts are behind it. I don't like Microsoft like you, but I guess your observation skills are off. If you believe blindly that FFXIII being multiplatform was a bad idea thats YOUR PROBLEM (NOT THEIRS! THEY WILL DO IT BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN EXTENDED MARKET FOR IT). Many people who had the PS2, currently own the 360 (Ever thought of that?). I'M ONE OF THEM!!! I'll have a PS3 soon and will buy FFXIII and Versus on the PS3. I have no gripe with the multiplatform aspect because i have no emotion to coporations moves like you do. As you put that it was "PERSONAL" to you and you grew up with the company. I feel happy that they can expand and make more money when the genre (for now) has dwindled down in sales. Look at Final Fantasy sales since FFVII they were high, then a crazy flux and then plummeted before the PS2 took a back seat to the PS3, and now they are the lowest they've ever been. BLAME THIS ON THE 360 ALL YOU WANT!! NONE OF THE JRPG's ON THE 360 INTEREST YOU BECAUSE THEY ARENT EXCLUSIVE TO THE PS3.

 

OMG Wow you are so off but I'll put it to you like this : Tales Of Vesperia, a decent game not mind blowing. I don't like Infinite Undiscovery, Blue Dragon - lolololololol, and Lost Odyssey I played it and liked it but don't care to purchase it. I've been excited for White Knight, FFXIII - which as I said no matter what you think it was desperate for M$ to chase that and many people know it so say what you will, your existance has nothing to do with mine so I could care less what you think. As for Versus XIII how do you know why it remained exclusive? You post a lot of speculations then call them facts, I find you amusing at best, but I find nothing you say logical since it's full of mindless trolling. As for me I like all three of current gen systems. I just know the PS3 is the best investment I have ever made for a console. And then look at your avatar lol, yea nuff said.

 

I love Tekken. Yeah...Tekken was an arcade game before it was Sony exclusive. You keep ignoring the fact that I will have Tekken and as a result obviously have the PS3 as well. You demand loyalty from a consumer just because of established titles. Titles can go anywhere at anytime. GET OVER IT ! THE LOFTY DAYS OF GAMING ARE OVER. It's all business and politics now. Videogames are no longer as simplistic and fun as they used to be now that  Sony and Microsoft have joined the biz. You already admitted your emotional and chronological loyalty to Sony so really your words to sound logical are meaningless. Some times you must push your emotions aside to see the truth. I used to be emotional about games and merchendise until I took Economics (and loved it) and actually got into working in highschool. Sony will have shitty JRPG'S and XBOX 360 will have shitty JRPG's. VERSUS IS YOUR GUYS ONLY HOPE!! LINEAR AND ONE SIDED AS YOU GUYS ARE!! YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT BASED ON HISTORY THE ORIGINALS IN FINAL FANTASY ARE NEVER SUPERPASSED BY THE SIDE GAMES.

Soriku and starcraft would disagree with you there. Especially since the side stories are usually not worked with alongside the main story. This one is different from all the rest in many ways...

 



S.T.A.G.E. said:

"Versus was only guaranteed to Sony exclusively out of pity SE felt bad about wanting more money..."

^^^HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE, CONCLUSIVE, AND OPINIONATED

"Versus is a side game..."

^^^NO SUBSTANCE OF MEANING TO THIS STATEMENT TO MAKE ANY VALID ARGUMENT

"Sony fanboys have created a web of dishonesty..."

^^^FIRST TWO QUOTED STATEMENT BECAUSE OF ITS ASSUMED AND PRESUMED BASIS ARE SUBJECT TO "A WEB OF DISHONESTY"

 

 



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Will someone please let STAGE know that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is NOT a side game. Versus is part of the new SE motif, Fabula Nova Crystalis. Final Fantasy XIII is actually not FFXIII at all but just a smaller part in the FNC world. FNC=main FF. Versus has the same exact budget as FFXIII, if not more seeing as they plan to come through with their promise on using full specs of the PS3. None of the Fabula Nova Crystalis games even cross paths. The only thing they hold in common is game lore.



      

      

      

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The Xbox 360 is indeed gaining marketshare relative to the original Xbox. The Xbox 360 has already exceeded the original Xbox's installed base in both Europe and Japan so in conclusion, it is gaining marketshare.



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@ forevercloud3000: Hmmm, wat?

So you're telling me that Fabula Nova Crystalis is nothing like Compilation of FF VII? Looks the same to me. Crisis Core is as sided as Dirge of Cerberus and Before Crisis as well, and I'm expecting the same thing from FFvXIII. Another definition: Milked.

Are you sure the games will not cross paths though? I'd wait for the game's release or an official statement from SE before stating anything like that (or it's probably already confirmed). o_o



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forevercloud3000 said:
@Stage
Your entire busisness like conduct argument makes me literally sick to my stomach. As a consumer business should be trying to please ME, and all others like me. Businesses these days are like rockstarts/actors. Their entire purpose in life is to amuse me, in return I give them my money. The same as when an Actor/famous person "sells out" the fans shun them and no longer want anything to do with them.

This is what SE has become, this is why people across the globe are infuriated. Any REAL gamer does not care for what system a game is on, this is true. But real gamers also want THE BEST game possible. Games that use what they have available to them to become the greatest. SE PROMISED time and time again that this game would be PS3 exclusive, that it would take virtually FULL advantage of the system's architecture. Now the game will need to be "EQUAL" with it's 360 counterpart just as all other MP games have been.

Also, Versus was not kept out of pity. Nomura, a respectful game designer, wanted it to stay exclusive. He is persuing full specs of the PS3 to the point of no return. Kojima did the same thing. THey both strived to create a game that cannot be replicated anywhere else, after all this is the reason many bought the PS3 in the first place. MS has been doing nothing but "cock blocking" sony this whole console war. REAL business men think more on how to improve themselves, less on how to bring down the competition. MS is the reason it took so long for Sony to settle the rumble dispute, MS is the reason Sony could not simply put in all the functions in PSN. Timed exclusivity is a joke, its only purpose is to keep people from buying PS3s because if the games came out at the same time the PS3 would probably dominate in most cases.

Every time you speak you seem to have some underlining hatred for Sony. I would actually like to know what that might be. MS is the one shafting the common consumer because of their ignorance with their rediculous pricing strategy. Everyone with a brain knows the upkeep of a 360 costs more then a PS3. MS is the one so desperate for 1st place they forced themselves to come out a year early just to beat Sony to the punch. MS is the one using a last gen format that has proved to be conflicting with what developers are persuing this gen(RAGE anyone?). In return they got plagued with the infamous RRoD. MS's system is the one riddled with other issues such as blatent overheating, disc mutilation, overpriced essential accessories. I mean come on you come out with a nxt gen controller that does not have a RECHARGABLE BATTERY!

And how is Sony cocky? At least anymore then any other company that has been successful in a field 2 times in a row? Yes, they are a bit high on themselves but thats becuase they are actually GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO!

If anything, Sony did things RIGHT this gen. THey waited to get into the ring, more focused on a quality product. They delay products to insure it's quality is the best it can be. They push the industry forward, MS holds it back.

 

Sony pleased themselves and not the consumers (The mass of the consumers last gen) by coming into the game with their own corporate ends to meet (And not yours). Blu Ray and media control were all apart of the plan. Did the fans ask Sony for that? NO! Important shareholders wanted it. Sony is not like an actor, Sony is a business...that can have its way as long as it makes a mark on consumers within each lifetime of its systems. People don't have to love businesses these days, they just have to be satisfied by what they offer (IE: Their disposable goods) enough until the next iteration. The ethics of business has changed (If you haven't noticed). Look at the world around you.

SE promised a good FFXIII game. The game was developed on the PC and then moved to the PS3 and then the 360. It will as powerful as they expected and intended for it to be in the first place. They said it themselves. PS3 fanboys use graphics and the power of Blu Ray as a crutch because they don't want the game to be multiplatform. If you want the game, stop being a child and play the game. Be the gamer that only you know you can be. The game was going to turn out a certain...wayyyyyy before they thought about putting it on the 360. Obviously their financial projections told them that they would needed extra revenue and the 360 was the perfect system to add to help out. Even if it sells less it will give them what they need. I am the true gamer who plays systems for only their use to amuse him? Why? I care not for gaming politics just as long as I know which system will have the most games. The system that usual resides around market price will sell the most. The Wii is below the market price and actually by production costs truthfully costs around $180 dollars. They are making hand over fist as you can see. When they feel threatened by the competition they will drop the price.

Kojima has a loyalty to Sony and I respect that. He also did want to create a visually superior game (Which of course he partially regrets not focusing more on gameplay). MGS got 10/10 and I doubt Kojima would be wanting to give it 10/10. That was all politics. He wasn't satisified with MGS4 because it was majority a cinematic phenomenon rather than gameplay. This is why he cannot keep himself away in an artistic approach and wants to work on another MGS. Konami would love to make the game multiplat so they could make the most money, but Kojima said no, so thats that. I'm not bitching about it, i'll have the game soon enough. In fact when it happened I was playing a game with friends and went on said "Clever girl" with cocky smile on my face.

I don't hate Sony, I know that the people running Sony at first could give two shits about gaming besides for the fact of it bailing the out of obscurity. They owe everything to this phenomenon which gained marketshare and made them the cockiest bastards on earth. It was Kutagari who talked them into even bringing the Playstation into existance...and they laughed at him, while they were getting their asses handed to them by other companies. I hated the first Xbox and played the PS2 and the gamecube last gen, but I told the fanboys of the PS2 to be weary that they are dealing with Microsoft a brand that isn't stupid and is just as bloodthirsty as Sony is. To ask me how Sony is cocky is not to know their history. Being dominant for two generations only made them cockier.

If you think Sony did the right thing this gen, then I guess you'll see a larger extension of Blu Ray. Blu Ray isn't needed in economies that are majority satisfied with DVD players that Sony helped bring in with in the first place. The majority of people see Blu Ray is redudancy and tech nerds see it as something that is needed. Guess who are the majority are?

Of course...don't worry though. Sony will catch up to Nintendo and devour them this gen. LOL yes...they will.

 



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Of course...don't worry though. Sony will catch up to Nintendo and devour them this gen. LOL yes...they will."

 

Really?????????



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twesterm said:
I don't know why people are still loyal to SE, they've been fucking up their main franchise for the longest time now.

 

 in your opinion and if i had to rate you thoughts id give it a 0/1000000000000000000000000

Get my point?

every main ff was hot and sales prove it. no other JRPG sells like ff does world wide cept pokemon



jenny said:
The Xbox 360 is indeed gaining marketshare relative to the original Xbox. The Xbox 360 has already exceeded the original Xbox's installed base in both Europe and Japan so in conclusion, it is gaining marketshare.

 

 Yep, and no one said it wasn't.  So what's your point?



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