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Well, here is the way I look at it. MGS4 made a profit. MGS4 received high ratings. MGS4 moved hardware. MGS4 is still selling respecfully. This is success. So in regards to "expectations," is there really an issue here???



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chenguo4 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
chenguo4 said:
starcraft said:
DMeisterJ said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:

 

 

 

This entire thread represents a question, replied to with speculative opinions from others.

Much like 99.65% of the comments made on this site, all of what is in this thread is speculation, bar the sales figures that currently exist.....well below previous numbers.

Other examples of speculation can be found here.

 

 

Are you gonna ignore the graph I put up? Here it is again:

please refrain from embarassing yourself

as you didn't get the point the first time round.....I'll enlighten you

MGs2 sales in NA & EU weren't tracked so the graph is VERY innaccurate as it shows MGS4 WW sales vs MGS2 JAPAN only sales

 

 

Hmm didn't notice that. My bad.

 

i don't think i've laughed so hard at a thread before. thanks for making my day starcraft lol.

 




Gnizmo said:
chenguo4 said: 

 

Are you gonna ignore the graph I put up? Here it is again:

 Your graph is meaningless really. Allow me to demonstrate why.

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=America&game1=Metal+Gear+Solid+4%3A+Guns+of+the+Patriots+-+PS3&reg2=America&game2=Metal+Gear+Solid+2%3A+Sons+of+Liberty+-+PS2&reg3=America&game3=Metal+Gear+Solid+-+PS&weeks=100

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=Japan&game1=Metal+Gear+Solid+4%3A+Guns+of+the+Patriots+-+PS3&reg2=Japan&game2=Metal+Gear+Solid+2%3A+Sons+of+Liberty+-+PS2&reg3=Japan&game3=Metal+Gear+Solid&weeks=100

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=Japan&game1=Metal+Gear+Solid+4%3A+Guns+of+the+Patriots+-+PS3&reg2=Japan&game2=Metal+Gear+Solid+2%3A+Sons+of+Liberty+-+PS2&reg3=Japan&game3=Metal+Gear+Solid&weeks=100

 Notice how each graph is set-up to compare it against 2 other Metal Gear Solid games, but only one comes back with data. I suspected that the staggered launch was to blame for the graph disparity, but it appears to be a large amount of missing data. The only region we have data for has MGS2 way ahead. I will tool around and see if we have hard data for 3 to compare it with, but 3 was the sales low point I seem to recall.

Eh no need to pull up MGS3, we all know how that one's gonna turn out.

So question, is MGS2's lifetime 5.58 mil vastly undertracked? Or is there just no week to week data?

 




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chenguo4 said:
Gnizmo said:
chenguo4 said: 

 

Are you gonna ignore the graph I put up? Here it is again:

 Your graph is meaningless really. Allow me to demonstrate why.

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=America&game1=Metal+Gear+Solid+4%3A+Guns+of+the+Patriots+-+PS3&reg2=America&game2=Metal+Gear+Solid+2%3A+Sons+of+Liberty+-+PS2&reg3=America&game3=Metal+Gear+Solid+-+PS&weeks=100

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=Japan&game1=Metal+Gear+Solid+4%3A+Guns+of+the+Patriots+-+PS3&reg2=Japan&game2=Metal+Gear+Solid+2%3A+Sons+of+Liberty+-+PS2&reg3=Japan&game3=Metal+Gear+Solid&weeks=100

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=Japan&game1=Metal+Gear+Solid+4%3A+Guns+of+the+Patriots+-+PS3&reg2=Japan&game2=Metal+Gear+Solid+2%3A+Sons+of+Liberty+-+PS2&reg3=Japan&game3=Metal+Gear+Solid&weeks=100

 Notice how each graph is set-up to compare it against 2 other Metal Gear Solid games, but only one comes back with data. I suspected that the staggered launch was to blame for the graph disparity, but it appears to be a large amount of missing data. The only region we have data for has MGS2 way ahead. I will tool around and see if we have hard data for 3 to compare it with, but 3 was the sales low point I seem to recall.

Eh no need to pull up MGS3, we all know how that one's gonna turn out.

So question, is MGS2's lifetime 5.58 mil vastly undertracked? Or is there just no week to week data?

 

Actually the graph comparing to MGS3 seems to have all data and shows how well MGS4 is crushing MGS3.

Sadly I have no idea on how to include graphs in posts...

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

@chengou

no sales are accurate....just weekly data isn't there



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Mgs 2 came to Xbox and Pc...Tho I dont remember anything about Xbox version..
Mgs 1 came to Pc as well,sooo lets say Mgs 1 and Mgs 2 sold 7m each...
...Weeell...Mgs 4...As a fan It was probably main reason for me to get Ps3.With Final fantasy and Devil may cry..
So, lets just say about 1/8 bought Ps3 because of mgs 4.. 2m.



 

 

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I think Guns of the Patriots sold considerably well, considering PS3 userbase being significantly smaller then the PS2's. It stil continues to sell, i don't think anyone is dissapointed espiecially not Konami, Sony should be also happy.



Ail said:
chenguo4 said:
Gnizmo said:
chenguo4 said: 

 

 

Actually the graph comparing to MGS3 seems to have all data and shows how well MGS4 is crushing MGS3.

Sadly I have no idea on how to include graphs in posts...

 

 

Yeah that's what I meant by "we all know how that's gonna turn out." But beating MGS3 isn't really that impress of an achievement, I guess.

 




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Current playing: No More Heroes

darthdevidem01 said:
@chengou

no sales are accurate....just weekly data isn't there

 

So MGS2 standard version did sell 5.58 mil?

Then MGS4 still has an outside chance of matching it, doesn't it? 

Consider that MGS2 was released around the holidays, and MGS4 was released in the middle of summer. No surprise MGS4 is undertracking.

I guess we'll have a much better picture come January 1st.




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As a game - It surpassed my expectations and is now one of the best 2 games I've ever played.

Sales - It's doing better than I thought considering the User base of the games of the MGS series on their releases.



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