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PS3 will be here to 2012 before PS4....i hope



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I think it's basically up to Epic when the next generation starts. As things get even more advanced, the next Unreal Engine will become even more necessary for developers, and many will have to wait for it's completion before going forward.

Do I think the PS3 can last 10 years? Sure. In fact I think the 360 and PS3 will have a great third party lifespan past their next  consoles' arrivals for one reason. There is a good chance that the next Nintendo console will be similar in power to a PS3, so as new games are developed for it, they can then be downported to the PS3 and 360, but with different controls. The next Nintendo console will help keep the other two alive and kicking for a little while longer. However, both will have successors before the 10 year mark. I don't even think it's arguable.



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FilaBrasileiro said:
TWRoO said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
The PS3 is self sustainable though therefore it is not losing money. Can you please post a link to the gametrailers video you talked about on #4?

Erm, no it isn't... not yet.

And even when it gets there it won't recoup what it has lost.

 

 

They still lose money on the PS3 HW but are making money on the PS3 overall (because of games, PSN and acessories), Yoshida said so.

That was proved wrong in the thread it was mentioned in.

It was obvious he wasn't talking about PS3 games alone, because they only made $50million profit in the last quarter, and that includes PS2 sw+hw and PSP sw+hw, which are both all profitable.

What he meant was, overall the PS division is losing money on hardware (so PS2+PSP profit is less than PS3 loss) but they make more money overall for software than the lose for hardware.

IF the PS3 alone was profitable, say by just $1..... then that means the PS2 + PSP make less than $50 million between them.... which you should find incredibly odd considering the PS2 alone (before PSP launch) made close to $1 billion

 



Really interesting points.



 

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HappySqurriel said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
HappySqurriel said:
Squilliam said:
In 2011 at 32nm process node a console manufacturer will be able to release a console which is at least 4x more powerful than the current generation of consoles on half as much silicon. Progress is always going to happen and people won't understand why such power is needed until it actually starts being used.

 

It is possible that by the end of 2011 (and certainly by the end of 2012) we could be working with a 22nm process which would mean that you could produce something 4 times as powerful as the PS3/XBox 360 at the cost to manufacture the Wii.


If the PS4 launches on 2011-2014 then it'll be in line with the 10 year plan for the PS3 a Sony always supports their consoles after launching a new one.

 

 

 

How many games has Sony released for the PS2 in 2008? How many Sony published games are going to be released for the PS2 in 2009?

Sony doesn't support their console much past the release of their next generation system, third party publishers continued to support their consoles because of their massive install base.

It wouldnt benefit any console manufacture to FULLY support there old console because what incentive would there be for you to upgrade to the new one.  But third party game makers will support both because as you mention large install base. 

 

 



PS3, WII and 360 all great systems depends on what type of console player you are.

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Lolcislaw said:
PS3 is not selling good, is doing all right i suppose, but the expectations were much higher, sony predicter higher profits.

Facts are 10 year plan wont be determined by Sony PR team, it will be other developers who today are using 360 as main developing platform. PS3 as a brand struggles to fight with the Wii in all regions, PS4 might offer something newer and fresh, because PS3 concept is not working well.

And i do agree only dominating consoles can maintain long life, the loosing companies need to change.

 

more than alright, it's selling better than the 360 at the same point in it's life.

Without the PS2's Christmas spike, it would be very close to the PS2 too.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=&reg3=All&weeks=100

concept does seem to be working well.

also, remember for Sony, they're probably still losing money per console sold, but they'd recoup some of that through PSN, Software and Blu-ray royalties.

OT: yup, I can definately see the PS3 going for 10 more years, possibly even new games coming out for it in 10-15 years.

The systems versatility will just keep improving as more and more devs get their heads around IBM/Sony's Beast-Baby



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Spankey said:
Lolcislaw said:
PS3 is not selling good, is doing all right i suppose, but the expectations were much higher, sony predicter higher profits.

Facts are 10 year plan wont be determined by Sony PR team, it will be other developers who today are using 360 as main developing platform. PS3 as a brand struggles to fight with the Wii in all regions, PS4 might offer something newer and fresh, because PS3 concept is not working well.

And i do agree only dominating consoles can maintain long life, the loosing companies need to change.

 

more than alright, it's selling better than the 360 at the same point in it's life.

Without the PS2's Christmas spike, it would be very close to the PS2 too.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=&reg3=All&weeks=100

concept does seem to be working well.

also, remember for Sony, they're probably still losing money per console sold, but they'd recoup some of that through PSN, Software and Blu-ray royalties.

OT: yup, I can definately see the PS3 going for 10 more years, possibly even new games coming out for it in 10-15 years.

The systems versatility will just keep improving as more and more devs get their heads around IBM/Sony's Beast-Baby

Please don't use that graph again.... You must have been told before if you have been here a while, but the launch differences fr PS2 and PS3 make that graph void for the most part, as well as the lack of PS2 supply for it's first Christmas.

Try these:
PS3 well behind PS2 in Japan
PS3 well behind PS2 in Americas
PS3 doing well, but still behind PS2 in Europe ("others" not used due to PS3 split launch)

 



TWRoO said:
Spankey said:
Lolcislaw said:
PS3 is not selling good, is doing all right i suppose, but the expectations were much higher, sony predicter higher profits.

Facts are 10 year plan wont be determined by Sony PR team, it will be other developers who today are using 360 as main developing platform. PS3 as a brand struggles to fight with the Wii in all regions, PS4 might offer something newer and fresh, because PS3 concept is not working well.

And i do agree only dominating consoles can maintain long life, the loosing companies need to change.

 

more than alright, it's selling better than the 360 at the same point in it's life.

Without the PS2's Christmas spike, it would be very close to the PS2 too.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=&reg3=All&weeks=100

concept does seem to be working well.

also, remember for Sony, they're probably still losing money per console sold, but they'd recoup some of that through PSN, Software and Blu-ray royalties.

OT: yup, I can definately see the PS3 going for 10 more years, possibly even new games coming out for it in 10-15 years.

The systems versatility will just keep improving as more and more devs get their heads around IBM/Sony's Beast-Baby

Please don't use that graph again.... You must have been told before if you have been here a while, but the launch differences fr PS2 and PS3 make that graph void for the most part, as well as the lack of PS2 supply for it's first Christmas.

Try these:
PS3 well behind PS2 in Japan
PS3 well behind PS2 in Americas
PS3 doing well, but still behind PS2 in Europe ("others" not used due to PS3 split launch)

 

 

my use of the PS2 was secondary; I had to fill the third box with something other than the awesome Wii. my main topic sentance was: "more than alright, it's selling better than the 360 at the same point in it's life."

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Well I was mainly replying to this sentence: "Without the PS2's Christmas spike, it would be very close to the PS2 too."

but ok