MS should sit out and re-evaluate. They seriously didn't do much right last time or this time.
MS should sit out and re-evaluate. They seriously didn't do much right last time or this time.
| LOL MATURE said: MS should sit out and re-evaluate. They seriously didn't do much right last time or this time. |
Yes, you're onto something, please elaborate. What didn't they do right actually? Me wants to know.
Random game thought :
Why is Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 getting so much hate? We finally get a real game and they're not even satisfied... I'm starting to hate the gaming community so f****** much...
SHMUPGurus said:
Yes, you're onto something, please elaborate. What didn't they do right actually? Me wants to know. |
Launch
Rushed launch which caused RRoD
First next gen released a year before everyone else and was struggling to outsell a last gen system (Got passed already by the Wii and is on track to being passed by the Ps3)
Arcade model is a waste
DVD 9 is a waste
No wifi is a waste (Depending who owns the console)
No recharge kit is a waste
They always said how they wanted to give the consumer "options" but really they just wanted to strip all useful things off of the console so when the user realized he needs a HDD, Live subscription, and a recharge kit so he doesn't go through 5 dollars a week on batteries they could price gauge the consumer.
Need I go on with their failed price point?
LOL MATURE said:
Launch Rushed launch which caused RRoD First next gen released a year before everyone else and was struggling to outsell a last gen system (Got passed already by the Wii and is on track to being passed by the Ps3) Arcade model is a waste DVD 9 is a waste No wifi is a waste (Depending who owns the console) No recharge kit is a waste They always said how they wanted to give the consumer "options" but really they just wanted to strip all useful things off of the console so when the user realized he needs a HDD, Live subscription, and a recharge kit so he doesn't go through 5 dollars a week on batteries they could price gauge the consumer. Need I go on with their failed price point? |
Do you realize that a good number of your reasons could be applied to another console? Do you also believe the other said console should re-evaluate and sit out, or is the 360 just a special case?
Onyxmeth said:
Do you realize that a good number of your reasons could be applied to another console? Do you also believe the other said console should re-evaluate and sit out, or is the 360 just a special case?
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Just the 360.
The Ps3 shouldn't have even had any life this generation. MS should have snuffed the compitition out while the ps3 was lagging behind.
MS hasn't made a profit for it's gamming division yet.
Million said:
Domination doesn't neccaserily mean profitability , Sony could have saved themselves $3-7 Billion by not releasing the PS3. |
and tehn lost the billions they are gonna make on blu-ray? thank god you dont work for sony ^^
LOL MATURE said:
Just the 360. The Ps3 shouldn't have even had any life this generation. MS should have snuffed the compitition out while the ps3 was lagging behind. MS hasn't made a profit for it's gamming division yet. |
That doesn't really answer my question. We're talking about who should sit out NEXT generation, and your reasoning is that 360 should have snuffed out PS3 and because MS hasn't made a profit yet. Both apply to Sony. PS3 should have snuffed out the Wii judging by last generation standards and the PS3 is making billions of dollars for Sony in the negative world. So why should only the 360 sit out if Sony is making basically all of the same mistakes?
Onyxmeth said:
That doesn't really answer my question. We're talking about who should sit out NEXT generation, and your reasoning is that 360 should have snuffed out PS3 and because MS hasn't made a profit yet. Both apply to Sony. PS3 should have snuffed out the Wii judging by last generation standards and the PS3 is making billions of dollars for Sony in the negative world. So why should only the 360 sit out if Sony is making basically all of the same mistakes?
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I was still talking about how MS dropped the ball.... My reasoning why MS should sit out is because they miserably failed last gen and completely dropped the ball this one. And though Sony hasn't m,ade profit on the Ps3 they have on their gaming division (Which isn't tied in with Zunes or games for windows) And since they were profitable last 2 gens they were able to take a risk with implimenting Blu-ray into their device which paid off by winning the format war. Will it pay off by making them money? Of course. More people who buy HD-TV's (who makes those... hm... Sony) Will buy Blu-ray players (Hm... I think Sony makes these things too) and more people who buy players will buy movies.... doesn't Sony own a movie studio and a portion of Blu-ray rights?
Also judging who should win based on previous gens just fails miserably. Nintendo should have never lost to Sony then.... right?
No console should skip a gen.
Xbox is a normal console, with a normal line up with a normal... it has nothing that stands out to make is last. Launch a new console at five years and try again.
PS needs a serious new direction if they want to be a major player again. The 10 year plan will not garner massive profit. It will only sustain. They need to cater to both old and new markets. Yes the PS3 will get cheaper, but by time it's in the price range of the new market well...
WiiToo. The Wii has changed it's position in the market. It's more like an iPod. I also believe that the GC architecture is so streamlined that's why became the Wii with more horsepower. This means that the next console will also continue to use the excellent architecture. With these to factors around the Wii it may shift into the an iPod or Game Boy like sales trend. Evey few years a new and improved Wii will come out that is a step better than the last. This means that the price may actually come down depending on the tech used. I could actually live with a 2 year console priced at about $100(unlikely).
How does the WiiToo relate to the PS3. When WiiToo comes out it will have the new market and hype of the right time for a new console. What this comes out too with figurative numbers is that By time the PS3 sells the equal of the Wii(10 years) the WiiToo will have also sold the apx equal of the Wii if not even more. That's 2 consoles of profitbale hardware sales more than PS and Nintendo will have held onto the market psyche more than the PS.
No console should skip on the 5 year cycle.
Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.
None of them should skip. They should, however, allow this generation to last longer. Nintendo would be able to do that cause they are going to the bank off the Wii. MS and Sony need to in order to recoup costs from their consoles and with the economy like it is and now (of course it can change within a few years, which i really hope it does) I don't think many people are gonnna shell out more money for a new console.
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