I said allmost all there are a few that have harsh laws but basicly they are not even close to yours, i´ve read the text in the games and they are riddicioulous. I am sure that you think they are reasnoable since you lived with it your whole life but for me that has lived without them my whole life I find them ridicioulous, insulting and very intrusive.

So, if someone else opens that box, then lost the cd, then if i find it, i can copy the game,  if i won`t use it? =)))

If i don`t open the box, then i don`t violate the agreement, right? If i`m not using the game, i can copy it, right? =) Or where is the violation? :)

I worded my self wrong in that post because it does exist but they have been modified acording to our laws in respective country.

 What I meant was that your version of the agreement doesn´t exost here.

You could also just steal a crate full of games, thus eliminating the need to make more copies. Just say "I found them."

If you need more copies, then just steal another crate; that way, there would be no question as to whether you were violating any software user agreements. Just remember to say "I found these too."

 Germany has way harsher laws than the US as an example. I don't find them ok because I have lived with them my whole life. I find them ok because I think developers should be paid for their work. Creating a copy of a game and giving it to a friend is terrible. You are rewarding someone for creating a game you enjoy by denying them a sale. That is messed up.

 Also, you don't learn as much about the enforceability and questionable legality of eulas as I have by simply obeying them. Most eulas are actually illegal and thus unenforceable in the US. They over step their bounds and invalidate the entire contract by attempting to set restrictions they are not allowed to or failing to follow the rules needed to make them legal. Don't think that what they put there simply means it is suddenly legally binding. The fact that you have to agree to a contract you can't read to buy the game puts extremely heavy limitations on what you can put in the contract and still have it be legally binding.

But most countries do have copyright and IP laws, licensing laws, etc. While they may not be exactly the same from one nation to the next, there are legal boundaries/rights.

Somehow, I can't see any software company distributing software to a country completely devoid of copyright laws.

 Companies continue to release their software in China despite essentially no IP laws if you are not China. While I think there are a few on the books, they are not close to enforced unless you are directly owned by China.

 Well it´s within your right to care more about a companies right to make more money then your own right to do what you want with a property you bought and own. Your laws (germany and france those are the major countries that are harsh) about a bought game are very similar to the rights you have to rentals here.

You just have to accept that your way isn´t nececary the right way (neither is ours) and your laws aren´t the final word other then your country. We have laws that protect our right to own what we bought and you have to accept that.

Maybe in the future we will get your kind of laws or you will get ours but untill then acceptanc of eachothers difference is the only key.

Didn´t want to start a disscusion but I thought that if you were aware of the difference in your countries then maybe this wouldn´t get out of hand which I am afraid it will.

But stealing is bad, making a copy is good. =) Sharing is VERY good.

So far, we found a way to copy a game without violation user agreement.))

Anyway, just by american logic, if you bought and downloaded an MP3 song to ipod, then you are not able to listen to it anywere except your ipod. If you want to listen that song on PC, you must copy that song on pc and delete it from ipod. Right?
So you pay for what?
And why you shouldn`t be allowed to copy that song to pc, audio cd, ipod and mobile phone? How about my consumer`s rights???
Because, this is User Agreement and if you don`t like, don`t buy? Ok, i will just download it. By doing that i won`t violate any user agreements and get more value from a song. =)
Same goes for software i think.

So do we, but for us they don´t prohibit you from using it in a privat mutter like borrowing it to a neighbour/friend and letting them play the game or make copies of it so you don´t wear out the original. The laws we have prevents you from trying to make money on the intelectual property and specificly intended to stop bigscale copyright infringment not personal copies.