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Paul_Warren on 09 September 2008

"Also, I've noticed an increase of sony fans shouting the praises of the PSWii, is it because the Wii makes up for the deficiencies of the PS3 that you have to latch onto it like a leech in order to surpass the 360? (I know it's flamebait, but it had to be said, I've noticed an increase in it and I think it's absolutely disgusting that the PS3 fans aren't proud of the PS3's accomplishments, so they have to use the banner "PSWii" in order to make themselves look better as Nintendo looks so good right now)."

By using the phrase PSWii they are showing an alliegiance to Japanese gaming as a whole which I also prefer much more than the American school of game design which is heavily PC influenced. The types of PC games that I did prefer died out well over a decade ago -- rpgs like SSI's gold box D & D games and Garriott's Ultima games that were more about telling stories than collecting loot and rankings like modern mmorpgs and adventure games like those designed by LucasArts and Sierra On-Line in the eighties and early nineties that I will always have much fonder memories of than any shooter that I've ever played.



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

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Xen on 09 September 2008
DirtyP2002 said:
CGI-Quality said:
largedarryl said:

It's too bad that Microsoft isn't in this to just make money, but to stop Sony from taking over the living room, which IMO they are doing a pretty good job.

I honestly think that Microsoft is willing to lose more money than that, especially if you start looking at the operating income of their other departments that depend on Windows.

 

And that's sad considering Sony and Nintendo care about their customers while M$ is only concerned with beating Sony lol, which explains their hysterical 33% failure rate. They should focus on keeping the consumer happy rather than just trying to go after Sony which in turn they could still lose at. Sure they've put a dent in Sony's market but I'd rather have Sony and Nintendo make THEIR OWN products unlike M$ who just throws money at everyone.

Boah this is BS. MS does everything the customers want them to do. Talking about games they really work hard to get former PS-exclusives or related games on their console.

  • GTA
  • Devil May Cry
  • Final Fantasy
  • Don't let me start with JRPGs or XBox Live Arcade

MS does a very good job to satisfy their customers. That is why they are getting a decent marketshare.

 

Copy PS2 success and library much? that's what it looks like to me. And that's also why lots of PS2 owners moved to 360.

Paul_Warren said:

It's over for the 360 if games like Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, and Heavy Rain get exceptional review scores and it will make things tougher for the PS3 if they don't.

All of them will, or maybe all of them except KZ2.

 

 



Cactus on 09 September 2008
Xen said:
DirtyP2002 said:
CGI-Quality said:
largedarryl said:

It's too bad that Microsoft isn't in this to just make money, but to stop Sony from taking over the living room, which IMO they are doing a pretty good job.

I honestly think that Microsoft is willing to lose more money than that, especially if you start looking at the operating income of their other departments that depend on Windows.

 

And that's sad considering Sony and Nintendo care about their customers while M$ is only concerned with beating Sony lol, which explains their hysterical 33% failure rate. They should focus on keeping the consumer happy rather than just trying to go after Sony which in turn they could still lose at. Sure they've put a dent in Sony's market but I'd rather have Sony and Nintendo make THEIR OWN products unlike M$ who just throws money at everyone.

Boah this is BS. MS does everything the customers want them to do. Talking about games they really work hard to get former PS-exclusives or related games on their console.

  • GTA
  • Devil May Cry
  • Final Fantasy
  • Don't let me start with JRPGs or XBox Live Arcade

MS does a very good job to satisfy their customers. That is why they are getting a decent marketshare.

Copy PS2 success and library much? that's what it looks like to me. And that's also why lots of PS2 owners moved to 360.

 

Which would mean that Microsoft satified them as customers?



heruamon on 09 September 2008

ROFLOL...I just love intelligent post like this one...lol.



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xman on 09 September 2008
Darc Requiem said:
Disolitude, Nintendo runs their business with common sense. The problem with how both Sony and MS conduct business is that is an all or nothing proposition. In order make money the Sony/MS business model requires complete domination of the market. Nintendo's model makes a profit whether they are first or last. Microsoft and Sony to a lesser extent can pull money from others lines of business to fund their gaming endeavors.

 

Thats not true there funding model is there console is a loss leader and they make money on games.  MS makes money on both there console and games at this time and sony is close on there console.

 

Nintendo model is simple make money on everything!!



PS3, WII and 360 all great systems depends on what type of console player you are.

Currently playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Fallout 3, Halo ODST and Dragon Age Origins is next game

Xbox live:mywiferocks

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xman on 09 September 2008
largedarryl said:
boycop said:
largedarryl said:

 

You shouldn't be so blinded to Sony either.  Sony is attempting to take over your living room too.

Correct, BUT there is a really big difference how these two companies would use their monopoly situation.

History has shown us MS cannot ever be trusted. They just use their current monopoly positions to expand into other new areas and unfairly (with monolpoy money) crush competition there. So would prefer to take my chances with Sony. Any day.

 

Do I need to repeat myself again?  I'm not defending Microsoft, but Sony isn't a saint of a company.  Whether you choose to believe me or not, Sony has attempted to make many attempts to monopolize the entertainment industry, the only difference with Microsoft is that Microsoft was succesful.

 

Dont need to repeat yourself to me, any company would want a monopoly if they could get it good for the company bad for the consumer, if Nintendo could get a monpoly they would also

 



PS3, WII and 360 all great systems depends on what type of console player you are.

Currently playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Fallout 3, Halo ODST and Dragon Age Origins is next game

Xbox live:mywiferocks

xman on 09 September 2008
Paul_Warren said:

It's over for the 360 if games like Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, and Heavy Rain get exceptional review scores and it will make things tougher for the PS3 if they don't.


HELLLO there not even out how do you know they are going to get exceptional review scores????

And GeOW2, Fable 2, Castle Crashers I could keep naming games for 360.



PS3, WII and 360 all great systems depends on what type of console player you are.

Currently playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Fallout 3, Halo ODST and Dragon Age Origins is next game

Xbox live:mywiferocks

Xen on 09 September 2008
Cactus said:
Xen said:
DirtyP2002 said:
CGI-Quality said:
largedarryl said:

It's too bad that Microsoft isn't in this to just make money, but to stop Sony from taking over the living room, which IMO they are doing a pretty good job.

I honestly think that Microsoft is willing to lose more money than that, especially if you start looking at the operating income of their other departments that depend on Windows.

 

And that's sad considering Sony and Nintendo care about their customers while M$ is only concerned with beating Sony lol, which explains their hysterical 33% failure rate. They should focus on keeping the consumer happy rather than just trying to go after Sony which in turn they could still lose at. Sure they've put a dent in Sony's market but I'd rather have Sony and Nintendo make THEIR OWN products unlike M$ who just throws money at everyone.

Boah this is BS. MS does everything the customers want them to do. Talking about games they really work hard to get former PS-exclusives or related games on their console.

  • GTA
  • Devil May Cry
  • Final Fantasy
  • Don't let me start with JRPGs or XBox Live Arcade

MS does a very good job to satisfy their customers. That is why they are getting a decent marketshare.

Copy PS2 success and library much? that's what it looks like to me. And that's also why lots of PS2 owners moved to 360.

 

Which would mean that Microsoft satified them as customers?

That's undeniable, yup... but M$'s final objective is monopoly, as usual. That's why I want them out.

 



Burgles on 09 September 2008

Its been established that people on the whole are very stupid.

If Sony wins this one out then this will just be further evidence of this..

Delivery less
Higher price
Less games
More delays
More bullshit

People still lap it up in the EU...Why?

Brand, image etc.....

Which means what exactly? Nothing.

See people are stupid.




Price cut....more games....people just don't want it, surprising really considering the current financial climate.

I blame the uneducated



Cactus on 09 September 2008
Xen said:
Cactus said:
Xen said:
DirtyP2002 said:
CGI-Quality said:
largedarryl said:

It's too bad that Microsoft isn't in this to just make money, but to stop Sony from taking over the living room, which IMO they are doing a pretty good job.

I honestly think that Microsoft is willing to lose more money than that, especially if you start looking at the operating income of their other departments that depend on Windows.

 

And that's sad considering Sony and Nintendo care about their customers while M$ is only concerned with beating Sony lol, which explains their hysterical 33% failure rate. They should focus on keeping the consumer happy rather than just trying to go after Sony which in turn they could still lose at. Sure they've put a dent in Sony's market but I'd rather have Sony and Nintendo make THEIR OWN products unlike M$ who just throws money at everyone.

Boah this is BS. MS does everything the customers want them to do. Talking about games they really work hard to get former PS-exclusives or related games on their console.

  • GTA
  • Devil May Cry
  • Final Fantasy
  • Don't let me start with JRPGs or XBox Live Arcade

MS does a very good job to satisfy their customers. That is why they are getting a decent marketshare.

Copy PS2 success and library much? that's what it looks like to me. And that's a lso why lots of PS2 owners moved to 360.

 

Which would mean that Microsoft satified them as customers?

That's undeniable, yup... but M$'s final objective is monopoly, as usual. That's why I want them out.

 

 

As largedarryl previously stated, any company would kill for a Monopoly, Microsoft just gets hate because they are the closest. Please tell me with all honestly, that Sony wouldn't love a monopoly in the tv/computer manufacturing/music player/video game world.