@Lem_Nx: WTF? You propably mean AMD owns ATI.
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ssj12 said:
How so? since China has entered the market many US jobs have been exported from the USA to China and other countries due to the fact US companies cant compete with the costs of labor in China meaning that the USA lost millions of jobs to overseas workers who are willing to work for pennies meaning all imported products will automatically be cheaper then what is produced within the USA. If the Chinese people were paid wages similar to us then I wouldn't have a problem but since labor costs are cheap as heck over there they shave off the savings off the produced product making it so that even with tariffs the products will be sold cheaper. In the end it would force Intel, AMD, and in a small token IBM to lose business which could lead to layoffs, exporting of jobs, and lose in quality. Now tell me is this a good thing? I think not. |
1. Its American companies that are moving jobs to china
2. Its more than China. Its Vietnam, Mexico, Bangladesh, Eastern Europe, ect.
3. The minimum wage in China has tripled over the past several years. Workers are getting more rights.
4. Because of the above factories are beginning to close in China as American companies move production to cheaper nations, such as Vietnam.
In short these nations have underdeveloped economies, so labor is cheap. Eventually those nations will start to have a developed economy, with workers demanding better wages and working conditions (this is china now). In due time these nations will have a fully developed economy where labor costs are comparable to the US (this is japan now, which used to be in the same position as china)
Also, if it wasn't for chinese labor then you couldn't have cheap goods at places like walmart. Cheaper goods mean that you effectively have more money. There is something to be said about comparative wealth,
TL;DR - its called globalization. Look it up.
Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?
ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all.
"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away"
| bdbdbd said: @Lem_Nx: WTF? You propably mean AMD owns ATI. |
I didn't get to the edit button in time to not be quoted.. *sigh* DAMN YOU HUGHES NET! Loads like a snail...
About time I remember my password...
@sieanr: And to add to your list, China is in the same situation where USA was a little over century ago.
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| bdbdbd said: @sieanr: And to add to your list, China is in the same situation where USA was a little over century ago. |
Its actually a little more complex than that. The US and Europe went through the social, political and economic changes that come with industrialization over a span of about 200 years. China has only had about 60 years of that industrialization, with the first significant changes happening in the past 25 years. That kind of rapid modernization is why china is such a mess.
Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?
ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all.
"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away"
sieanr said:
1. Its American companies that are moving jobs to china 2. Its more than China. Its Vietnam, Mexico, Bangladesh, Eastern Europe, ect. 3. The minimum wage in China has tripled over the past several years. Workers are getting more rights. 4. Because of the above factories are beginning to close in China as American companies move production to cheaper nations, such as Vietnam. In short these nations have underdeveloped economies, so labor is cheap. Eventually those nations will start to have a developed economy, with workers demanding better wages and working conditions (this is china now). In due time these nations will have a fully developed economy where labor costs are comparable to the US (this is japan now, which used to be in the same position as china) Also, if it wasn't for chinese labor then you couldn't have cheap goods at places like walmart. Cheaper goods mean that you effectively have more money. There is something to be said about comparative wealth, TL;DR - its called globalization. Look it up.
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I know its globalization, I am taking business classes, international business is one of my classes this semester to be frank. It just doesnt mean I have to like the outcome of it till all the world's economies are balanced and companies can compete on even footing.
| NiKKoM said: Hmmm.. it seems a lot of you haven't been to China lately.. It's changing and it is bringing quality stuff out.. because their national market demands it.. People are getting richer there and are willing to buy good quality products.. And are using quality.. I was ad a design agency in April and they were using the Adobe Creative Suite.. legal.. A few years back you would just walk into a illegal software shop, but nowadays it's hard to find them.. China changed fast.. and will dominate the international market.. |
What part of China were you in? I was in Beijing a year ago, and other than downtown, it was a sad sight; as in really really poor. The places those people live in are not even structurally sound. I found tons of shops with illegal dvds; not to mention the silk market I went to in downtown Beijing. They had ripoffs of everything you can think of from cameras to cell phones to designer clothing. And those NDS flash cards.
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sieanr said:
Its actually a little more complex than that. The US and Europe went through the social, political and economic changes that come with industrialization over a span of about 200 years. China has only had about 60 years of that industrialization, with the first significant changes happening in the past 25 years. That kind of rapid modernization is why china is such a mess. |
Actually i was implying the cheap production.And the economics growth. When USA started industrilizing, it was pulling the global economics (namely Europe that time and maybe even China) and after it was grown enough to being able to run by its own, the production shifted to North-America.
The 60 years you mentioned, is the time that the communistic party have been in power and true, that's where the industrializing started after them copying the Soviet Unions industry model. Although, China didn't need industrializing, so they ditched it for a few years.
But, anyway you're right, while the industrializing have grown along with population growth in the west, China is getting it on "full scale" at once and that's indeed causing a lot of problems (locally as well as globally).
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