| Pristine20 said: There's really no competition in the JRPG genre so yeah it can have it lol |
There is competition, just not on your console. Also, neither on mine until 2009 - G'DAMN!
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ToV is way better than ES by a long shot. I agree completely with Stickball , with ToV I want to go back and continued while ES by the times you get to the mid point, it almost a drag to keep going (I only finish it because my kids kept bugging me to help them, and even they got bore with it). IU is OK, but ToV is better of the two and much more polish visually and technically.
I think ES benefit from coming out first, I think reviewing today ES would have a much lower score (or ToV should have got a higher score except of course it lack that certain Final in its name).
The best RPG this year is Pokemon Platinum by a lot, in second ToS: DoTNW
OT: Candidate yes, Winner no
I assume when you say GOTY you mean it's Overall (all platforms). I haven't played Vesperia so I don't know how good it is, but it really has a VERY tough competition, perhaps the toughest in years. Here's the candidates:
Fable 2 - If it keeps (most of) what is promised, Fable 2 will be a serious contender for RPGOTY of 2008. The problem is the chances of being as good as Molineux leads us to believe isn't very high.
Fallout 3 - Brand name alone will make a huge amount of hype that could help the game's aknowledgement. I don't have faith in Fallout 3, since many of what has been shown (and NOT shown) makes me doubt greatly of it's quality. However, Oblivion fans will flock, FPS fans will flock, some Fallout fans will flock towards Fallout 3... you can't deny the powerfull pull this game has.
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning - Will likely win ALL Massive-Multiplayer and MMORPG awards. Question is, will it be enough to win a handful of "Best RPG" awards? The stigma of not bundling MMORPGs with the RPG genre still exists within the media and gaming community. Either way, this game reeks of potential and quality (can it become another WoW?).
Those were the 3 big ones. There are other RPGs, outsiders, that aren't as likely to be great but still have potential. There's also a couple of RPG re-runs of last year (Mass Effect, The Witcher):
Persona 4 - Meh, nothing to see here. Persona 3 was decent but not sensational, and I doubt this will be any different. Being on a Last gen console, unfortunately, won't help it much in reception and comparison.
The Witcher Enhanced Edition - My favorite RPG of 2007, and appreciated by many (it seems it won more "Best RPG of 2008" awards than Mass Effect), will make a return with more quests, improved writing and voice-over, 100 new animations, improved visuals and several fixes and tweaks. I doubt it will win many awards, but it will certainly be awesome!
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel - Action-RPG fun, can be a decent experience. If it has Diablo quality, I can see it get unconditional love from Hack 'n Slash fans.
The Agency - This free MMORPG for PC/PS3 has the potential to cause a thunder in that side of the MMO market, forcing other foreign (chinese/korean) developers to up the quality of their shitty free MMOs.
| MANUELF said: The best RPG this year is Pokemon Platinum by a lot, in second ToS: DoTNW |
Ha, don't make me laugh, Platinum may very well be a very good game, but there's absolutely no way it will be better than Persona 4, Vesperia, Disgaea, etc. How exactly can a remake of a decent but same-as-always (I mean, it's the same formula as 10 years ago, a good formula, but a bit tired) game be GOTY?
| shio said: I assume when you say GOTY you mean it's Overall (all platforms). I haven't played Vesperia so I don't know how good it is, but it really has a VERY tough competition, perhaps the toughest in years. Here's the candidates: Fable 2 - If it keeps (most of) what is promised, Fable 2 will be a serious contender for RPGOTY of 2008. The problem is the chances of being as good as Molineux leads us to believe isn't very high. |
The Agency won't be anything special, 989/Verant/SOE lost the touch ages ago.
Sacred 2 does look mighty interesting tho. Oh, Mythos, thou life was so short =(
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@Shio
I think that Fallout 3 will probably be the best rpg this year. I do, however, feel that ToV doesn't get the respect it deserves simply because of its genre, and the fact that it is easily marginalizable due to its anime, niche nature. Persona 4 as well, to a lesser degree. In Japan, I bet that GotY list would be totally different, but the thing is, the quality of these games don't change, just the perception of the people playing them.
I also add to your list "The Last Remnant."
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
| Riachu said: IU is considered to be a prototype to SO4 while ES was a sort of prototype for ToV. IU is a very flawed game as a result of coming out too soon. |
Having played both (almost 50% done with 2nd playthrough on ES to 1k/1k it for GS), I really think that Tales of Vesperia is using a heavily modified engine from Eternal Sonata...
1) Area location views are entirely fixed camera
2) Battle systems are similar, but (as we know), one utilizes 4 players @ once, all in real time, and the other 3, using quasi-turn based. However, you can see similaries in the Fatal Strikes/Harmomy Chains, and various other aspects.
3) Similar cutscene engine - both use entirely in-game assets for cutscenes (although ToV adds animated sections too)
Of course, ToV is everything ES had + a ton more, but there are similarities. Also, the ToV voice cast has quite a few characters from Eternal Sonata (Allegretto reprises his role as Flynn, among others).
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
Candidate, surely. Winner? Not if Persona 4 is even half as good as Persona 3 was.
| Cactus said: Candidate, surely. Winner? Not if Persona 4 is even half as good as Persona 3 was. |
Again, I strongly believe that ToV is slightly better than Persona 3. That, of course, is just my opinion. That said, I do believe that P3 was the best SMT game, and beat Noctourne easily. If you haven't played it, which I dunno if you have or not, you should not assume that it is automatically worse than a really good jrpg. I've played them all, it's up there.
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
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