Sorry but I beleive your incorrect.

If i have any understanding what so ever of the markets that the Wii & PS3 apeal to then i'm pretty certain that the Wii could not outsell the PS3 at a $600 Price point , the casual demographic woudln't be able justify a $600 price tage for the novelty of swinging a motion controller about with their friends at a party etc , the traditional gamer wouldn't be able to justify buying relativley old technology , yes the Wii is "innovative and revolutionary" but that can only add so much perceived value. for a relativley high price a $600 price point would server as too high a barrier for the vast majority of it's current userbase to jump on .

Keepin in mind nintendo came into this gen as the underdog , the Wii needed a low price to gain the consumers confidence.

A cheap Wii vs a Cheap PS3 is a though one to answer and I think depending on the scenario either one could have been the market leader right now. A Cheap PS3 would have completley demolished any competition the XBOX 360 posed ( I think the effect of PS3 price cuts alone demonstrate this) a low price point would most likely killed any opposition the XBOX 360 posed.

The HD format war would have never happened saving Sony possibly 100's of millions of promotional costs , Blu-Ray adoption would have increased at a much more rapid rate , Sony would have generated more profits from the PS3 via blu-ray and software from a larger PS3 install base . Sony with a more profitability ( and already affordable PS3 ) would have more capacity to price cut and sustain losses than their competitor Nintendo.

Sony would have had GTA IV , Devil May Cry , Burnout , Final Fantasy , Tales , Max Effect , Bioshock, Gears Of War and many more titles as exclusives ( or multiplatform at the very least) . 3rd Party developers would have been at their feet like last generation.

Max Effect - lulz

Burnout is already multiplatform and always has been... in fact all of those games on your list is questionable... but really I wouldn't expect any less of you.

What are you talking about you wouldn't expect any less of me ? I was just giving an example a quickly thought over one at that , and all of those games are by 3rd party developers so chances are that they'd end up on a cheap PS3 without the an MS moneyhatt , did you actualy ready all of what I wrote ?

The fact you're not even factoring in that if the PS3 was priced around the Wii's price they would have killed their funding... they were losing a lot from just putting it at the price point that they did... honestly all of your points have flaws as you don't even factor in the marketing appeal of PS3 vs Wii at the time, the PR people at Sony was slipping big time making asses of themselves at E3, and the fact that there was nothing but excitement around Wii's motion controller.  Now if Sony had made a similar hardware wise system to Wii with an even better motion controller, full backwards compatability, and something cooler to show off that controller with like a God of War game with motion controlls then they could have won over the masses before the release but that would change the face of this gen completely... though probably would have not changed fanboy attitudes as most Sony fanboys that harp on the power of the system and blu-ray would harp on how great their motion controlls are.

It was purely hypothetical I wasn't actualy trying to argue that Sony would or could sell the PS3 with it's current specification for a Wii price point , the "cheap PS3" doesn't exist in this reality. The Playstation brand came into this generation with alot more momentum than the Nintendo brand but the price point the PS3 was at didn't alow Sony to capitalise on the opportunity , the PS3 as a console had limited apeal for a good year at least but still managed to sell faster than it's nearest competitor . If memory serves correctly the PS2 didnt' come out with that many strong titles  it was 3rd Party support that kept it going , 3rd Party support that Sony would have received if not for that ridiculously high price point which served as a barrier to the interested consumer.

So in short there's no way for this gen to have turned out any other way... you can't magically make the hardware cheaper for Sony to make... or expect that if Sony released with 360 the hardware wouldn't have probably cost even more... and then everyone just over looks the laughable image Sony had before the release of the console.  Flat out the real thing Sony did wrong was planning, they wasn't planning on another console coming out with weaker hardware, they didn't think about marketing to the masses, they didn't plan on their followers for the last two gens to jump on another system.  This thread has given me a headache now and I'll leave people to this stupid argument...

in short there's no way you can proove you point , there's also no way I can conclusivley proove mine. You don't need to "magicaly" make hardware cheaper  Sony had the option of putting new and expensive technology when there was relativley similar technology (DVD etc) for a lesser cost , the cell Proccesor and Blu-Ray pushed the PS3's price point above what the consumer could afford and they payed dearly for that but even at a $600 price point it definetley performed better than any current gen console could i'd assume with a price point less than half that amount it could have likely outperformed the Wii.

Please show a respect for my argument as I show a respect for yours , calling my argument stupid and dismissing only demonstrates your lack of ability to debate regardless of wether you think my argument is valid or not a certain respect for your oponent should still remain , you only make yourself look stupid by doing otherwise.

i'm pretty tired so spelling and grammar is likely to be weak.

No. What happened was that the 360 had a lot of street cred when it was released due to both Halo and the scarcity of the 360 at launch. Nintendo saw what this scarcity allowed Microsoft to do to generate cred on their console and used it to their advantage to generate hype for the Wii.

However, now that people have seen what the 360 was about and the fact that quite a few of its games (particularly more recent ones) including Halo3 (at least as far as the first person part of the game was concerned) failed to live up to the hype and since more and more people have the Wii and are capable of seeing its shortcomings in graphics and game library -- particularly 3rd part games which are not as good and will continue for the rest of this generation to be inferior to the PS3 and 360 versions in terms of the wow factor that they have the ability to generate due to the Wii's technological limitations; rather than just being able to hear about the Wii from coworkers and thinking that it is the best thing since buttered toast while being unable to see them for themselves in stores in order to see what it is really all about --  both the 360 and Wii are going to cool off considerably while the PS3 just gains more and more popularity which is going to take it over the top.  The PS3 is going to have a beautiful comeback.