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FilaBrasileiro on 08 September 2008

What if:

Nintendo had launched a CD based N64 instead of a Cartridge based one (therefore pretty much guaranteeing FFVII exclusive and 3rd party support), would the PlayStation brand still be around today?

Nintendo and Sony had never disagreed on the PlayStation in the 1st place and had joined forces when they were supposed to, would they still be together today? And if they were together would MS have a chance in hell with the XBox project?



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bardicverse on 08 September 2008
FilaBrasileiro said:
What if:

Nintendo had launched a CD based N64 instead of a Cartridge based one (therefore pretty much guaranteeing FFVII exclusive and 3rd party support), would the PlayStation brand still be around today?

 

I don't think so, because Sony was apparently helping Nintendo with that project, and would have been happy making money as one of their partners. If they would have made a console, it wouldn't have been for another 2 generations at least.



jedson328 on 08 September 2008
megaman2 said:
Kane said:
What kind of mentality is this? What went wrong with the ps3?? The ps3 is doing fine.

You are a xbot?

Im the sony leader, im just stating where the ps3 went wrong and what sony should have done!!

 

 

If you are the Sony leader, then I think I need to stop being a Sony follower.  Long Live Kutaragi!



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Strategyking92 on 08 September 2008

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colonelstubbs on 08 September 2008
jedson328 said:
megaman2 said:
Kane said:
What kind of mentality is this? What went wrong with the ps3?? The ps3 is doing fine.

You are a xbot?

Im the sony leader, im just stating where the ps3 went wrong and what sony should have done!!

 

 

If you are the Sony leader, then I think I need to stop being a Sony follower.  Long Live Kutaragi!

 

 Dont disrespect our esteemed leader!



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SolidSnitch on 08 September 2008

The wii is winning because of its controls and its appeal to the general population, I know me as a parent that I would buy a wii to my kids way faster than any other systems with violent games etc.
Sony still did a good job with there PS3, they won the format war, I think because of it, and now has exclusivity on HD movies, unless you download them. In a way the PS3 is winning but not really as a gaming console, more like a blu-ray player that can play games as an extra.



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Seraphic_Sixaxis on 08 September 2008

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Simulacrum on 08 September 2008

Well,Xbox 360 was much lower price,many games came to Xbox and Ps3,so who would pay twice as much with bad games, some weird blu-ray format.



 

 

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MaxwellGT2000 on 08 September 2008

Heh I see a lot of people talk about the price of the PS3 being the only bad point... really are you people listening to yourselves? Sony is still in the red (console sells wise) cause they put the system at the low price point that they did. Their mistake was not the selling price point but how much the tech cost that went into the PS3, if they used DVDs like the 360 instead of pushing blue ray, and used a just as powerful processor instead of making the cell processor, they could have brought it out at a lower price point...

But they had quite a few mistakes, like they lost their image, they looked desperate at E3 2006 with the adding of motion control to compete with Wii's controller and then the controller performing poorly on the show floor, all the moments Sony PR was dumbfounded by a lot of peoples questions, they just lost it before the system released, a lot of people were not pleased, and then Wii caught the eye of the mainstream market that used to follow PS1 and PS2 plus added more to that market by attracting new gamers. There was a lot of mistakes some Sony's fault some not, honestly it doesn't matter anymore cause PS3 rocks now.



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Sephiroth357 on 08 September 2008
twesterm said:
Million said:
twesterm said:
megaman2 said:

Q1 -If the Nintendo wii and Ps3 had been priced the same, who would have been the market leader?

Q2 - If the Ps3 lauched a year earlier, would the Xbox 360 be able to catch up?

 

Whoops, forgot to answer the questions:

  1. Still the Wii.  The PS3 had nothing going for it at the time of launch other than its name.  Nintendo had its name, a new controller, and even a bundled game to show it off.
  2. Hard question-- would any of those 360 exclusives been multiplatform or PS3 exclusives?  Who knows.

 

 

Sorry but I beleive your incorrect.

 

If i have any understanding what so ever of the markets that the Wii & PS3 apeal to then i'm pretty certain that the Wii could not outsell the PS3 at a $600 Price point , the casual demographic woudln't be able justify a $600 price tage for the novelty of swinging a motion controller about with their friends at a party etc , the traditional gamer wouldn't be able to justify buying relativley old technology , yes the Wii is "innovative and revolutionary" but that can only add so much perceived value. for a relativley high price a $600 price point would server as too high a barrier for the vast majority of it's current userbase to jump on .

Keepin in mind nintendo came into this gen as the underdog , the Wii needed a low price to gain the consumers confidence.

A cheap Wii vs a Cheap PS3 is a though one to answer and I think depending on the scenario either one could have been the market leader right now. A Cheap PS3 would have completley demolished any competition the XBOX 360 posed ( I think the effect of PS3 price cuts alone demonstrate this) a low price point would most likely killed any opposition the XBOX 360 posed.

The HD format war would have never happened saving Sony possibly 100's of millions of promotional costs , Blu-Ray adoption would have increased at a much more rapid rate , Sony would have generated more profits from the PS3 via blu-ray and software from a larger PS3 install base . Sony with a more profitability ( and already affordable PS3 ) would have more capacity to price cut and sustain losses than their competitor Nintendo.

Sony would have had GTA IV , Devil May Cry , Burnout , Final Fantasy , Tales , Max Effect , Bioshock, Gears Of War and many more titles as exclusives ( or multiplatform at the very least) . 3rd Party developers would have been at their feet like last generation.

 

I wasn't assuming the Wii would have it priced raised since most sane people agree that it's the right price; the issue is the PS3's price so that is the price that would be affected.

And again, at launch what did the PS3 offer and what did the Wii offer?

From the box alone the Wii offered a very new way of playing, the Nintendo name, and a game.  The PS3 offered the PS3 name (everyone knew the SIXAXIS was a joke). 

We could argue about the libraries but it's just easier to assume they're equal.  Personally, I think the Wii had a stellar launch library, probably one of the best in a good while, but that is merely an opinion thing and that's why it should be left out.

 

 

 Ever heard of Blue-Ray?