By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sony - Where Sony went wrong with the ps3!!

Million said:
twesterm said:
megaman2 said:

Q1 -If the Nintendo wii and Ps3 had been priced the same, who would have been the market leader?

Q2 - If the Ps3 lauched a year earlier, would the Xbox 360 be able to catch up?

 

Whoops, forgot to answer the questions:

  1. Still the Wii.  The PS3 had nothing going for it at the time of launch other than its name.  Nintendo had its name, a new controller, and even a bundled game to show it off.
  2. Hard question-- would any of those 360 exclusives been multiplatform or PS3 exclusives?  Who knows.

 

 

Sorry but I beleive your incorrect.

 

If i have any understanding what so ever of the markets that the Wii & PS3 apeal to then i'm pretty certain that the Wii could not outsell the PS3 at a $600 Price point , the casual demographic woudln't be able justify a $600 price tage for the novelty of swinging a motion controller about with their friends at a party etc , the traditional gamer wouldn't be able to justify buying relativley old technology , yes the Wii is "innovative and revolutionary" but that can only add so much perceived value. for a relativley high price a $600 price point would server as too high a barrier for the vast majority of it's current userbase to jump on .

Keepin in mind nintendo came into this gen as the underdog , the Wii needed a low price to gain the consumers confidence.

A cheap Wii vs a Cheap PS3 is a though one to answer and I think depending on the scenario either one could have been the market leader right now. A Cheap PS3 would have completley demolished any competition the XBOX 360 posed ( I think the effect of PS3 price cuts alone demonstrate this) a low price point would most likely killed any opposition the XBOX 360 posed.

The HD format war would have never happened saving Sony possibly 100's of millions of promotional costs , Blu-Ray adoption would have increased at a much more rapid rate , Sony would have generated more profits from the PS3 via blu-ray and software from a larger PS3 install base . Sony with a more profitability ( and already affordable PS3 ) would have more capacity to price cut and sustain losses than their competitor Nintendo.

Sony would have had GTA IV , Devil May Cry , Burnout , Final Fantasy , Tales , Max Effect , Bioshock, Gears Of War and many more titles as exclusives ( or multiplatform at the very least) . 3rd Party developers would have been at their feet like last generation.

 

I wasn't assuming the Wii would have it priced raised since most sane people agree that it's the right price; the issue is the PS3's price so that is the price that would be affected.

And again, at launch what did the PS3 offer and what did the Wii offer?

From the box alone the Wii offered a very new way of playing, the Nintendo name, and a game.  The PS3 offered the PS3 name (everyone knew the SIXAXIS was a joke). 

We could argue about the libraries but it's just easier to assume they're equal.  Personally, I think the Wii had a stellar launch library, probably one of the best in a good while, but that is merely an opinion thing and that's why it should be left out.

 



Around the Network

@Atma998: It was a valid comparision. Even with a same pricepoint, Civic would still sell more. It's more practical and consumes less. Also, things as tires would be a lot cheaper.

So, it's not about price, but what both cars offer.



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

This thread is important to analise what can be made next gen, not only for sony, but for the others.
I think they could have done with a special sku with bluray, and a made a dettachable drive, so you could upgrade the lesser sku aftewards to a bluray player. ANdd include BC in every PS3. If they could do that and sell it at $399 at least, they would be at 24-26mln units by now. If they launched Any famous game at the beggining, than they would be at 35-38, if only because of the ps2 owners upgrading their systems. Price DO matters in this case. I only did changed mine because of the price drop, and I´m still pissed about the BC.



VASCO DA GAMA CAMPEÃO DA COPA DO BRASIL!!!

CONGRATULATIONS VASCÃO

VICE É O CARALH*

 

PLAYSTATION®3 is the future......NOW.......B_E_L_I_E_V_E

And only 5 million behind the 360, that's amazing.



 Next Gen 

11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

No. What happened was that the 360 had a lot of street cred when it was released due to both Halo and the scarcity of the 360 at launch. Nintendo saw what this scarcity allowed Microsoft to do to generate cred on their console and used it to their advantage to generate hype for the Wii.

However, now that people have seen what the 360 was about and the fact that quite a few of its games (particularly more recent ones) including Halo3 (at least as far as the first person part of the game was concerned) failed to live up to the hype and since more and more people have the Wii and are capable of seeing its shortcomings in graphics and game library -- particularly 3rd part games which are not as good and will continue for the rest of this generation to be inferior to the PS3 and 360 versions in terms of the wow factor that they have the ability to generate due to the Wii's technological limitations; rather than just being able to hear about the Wii from coworkers and thinking that it is the best thing since buttered toast while being unable to see them for themselves in stores in order to see what it is really all about --  both the 360 and Wii are going to cool off considerably while the PS3 just gains more and more popularity which is going to take it over the top.  The PS3 is going to have a beautiful comeback.



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

Around the Network
psrock said:
And only 5 million behind the 360, that's amazing.

Considering it started 5 million behind I don't consider it that amazing.

 



Okay TWRoO, what about the fact that the 360's lead over the PS3 was over 1 million in Others at the start of this year, was down to 750,000 following the release of the European version of GTA IV which was more popular across the pond than the 360 version even though the 360 was selling at about the same price as the Wii there at the time, and now two months after the release of Metal Gear Solid 4, the 360's lead in others is down to 430,000 units?



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

If Sony did anything wrong with the PS3, it was the timing. Too late versus the XBox 360, too early to take advantage of the HD market, and released to compete against the only console truly in touch with the market. That being said, yes it did stumble out the gates, but Sony has learned to roll with it and are making much wiser decisions at this stage in the race. This has probably been a very healthy learning experience for those folks and everyone paying attention to the current console generation, so I'm sure we'll see some amazing tech from Sony, MS and Nintendo alike next round. Come to think of it, MS and Nintendo learned a lot over the past couple years as well.



@OP - To answer question1 - If the PS3 was as cheap as the Wii, it wouldn't have a Blu Ray or as fast processing power/graphical capability. If the Wii was as expensive as the PS3, it'd support HD, have a large HD, probably Wireless N support too.

So its hard to answer your question. There's a reason they are priced as they are.

In regards to question 2 - I think it'd be quite a bit closer betwen PS3 and XB360. I forget what the difference of XB360s sold for that year before PS3 and Wii were launched was. The year definitely did give MS the early momentum.

I want some McDonald's apple pies. MMM. Tasty.



bdbdbd said:
@Atma998: It was a valid comparision. Even with a same pricepoint, Civic would still sell more. It's more practical and consumes less. Also, things as tires would be a lot cheaper.

So, it's not about price, but what both cars offer.

 

 You got a point! But I don't think PS3 is the Ferrari of consoles