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Gballzack on 11 July 2007
Legend11 said:
I don't think we can rely on this site's numbers for anything other than North America and that's after we get confirmation of the numbers during the middle of the month. I'm not trying to bash this site but the numbers can change drastically from one week to the next (hundreds of thousands of sales disappear, etc). The 360's numbers were reduced so it's at 10.06 again. It's just predictions that can be off by 20-30% or more at times that are the problem.

That may be true, but it honestly just sounds more like an excuse after the fact to help Sony fans convince themselves the PS3 is doing better than what it really is.



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Spectrumglr on 11 July 2007
Legend11 said:
She may have been going by the old European numbers that were on this site. They showed the 360 beating the PS3 in Europe but apparently ioi or someone else updated them and now they're the complete opposite.

yes, an allarming 24k PS3 vs 20k X360 per week instead of 20k PS3 vs 22k x360...in less than 500 (FIVE HUNDREDS) weeks PS3 will reach X360...X360 definitely urges a price drop in the next 2 weeks.

 



2008 year end sales (made in January 2008):

44.2 M 27.1 M 20.8 M

Gballzack on 11 July 2007

so if this site is wrong what is the credible source to the contrary?



Andir on 11 July 2007
Gballzack said:
so if this site is wrong what is the credible source to the contrary?

Anywhere other than that site you get your icons from... Seriously, the past two I could swear are from anime porn with the naughty bits cut out... but just enough that you still know.



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Gballzack on 12 July 2007
Andir said:
Gballzack said:
so if this site is wrong what is the credible source to the contrary?

Anywhere other than that site you get your icons from... Seriously, the past two I could swear are from anime porn with the naughty bits cut out... but just enough that you still know.


Sigh... You make me sad.



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omgwtfbbq on 12 July 2007
Celb said:
Gballzack said:




 


But worldwide the 360 is selling much better.


Nice fud, why dont you prove it. Last i read they were almost dead even for 2007

Ms is just giving away their lead, no clue wtf is wrong with them. Maybe they think Halo is unstopable, probably they do.

 

literally 3 clicks away:

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weekly=1

or more importantly, and only 1 click away:

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All

Honestly, you're an idiot. You're on a Video Games Sales website and can't find proof that the 360 is selling better? Worldwide, the 360 is performing better than the PS3 in all concievable metrics. Just own up to it.

 

 



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RedToof on 13 July 2007

Perhaps MS didn't drop their price because they suspected the Sony's price drop was temporary.

 Reference: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/13/sony-switcheroo-no-more-60gb-playstation-3-in-us-after-july/



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mrstickball on 13 July 2007

Sigh. Lets compare actual 360 vs. PS3 current numbers, for the past 3 weeks. Sound good?

 

 Sony   Microsoft    
 North AmericaPAL/Other JapanPS3 Totals/Wk       North America PAL/OtherJapan  X360  Totals/wk
 18,560 24,235 9,815

 52,610

 41,612 20,471 3,825

 65,908

 18,797 24,967 11,498

 55,252

 44,803 20,255 3,254

 68,312

 17,770 24,594 11,587

 53,951

 34,623 19,987 2,978

 57,588

        
        
 Total:  

 161,813 

   

 191,808 

 

Okay, so the 360 outsold the PS3 by just under 30,000 units in 3 weeks, or an average of 10,000 units, or around 17.5% more units per week, on average. I fail to see how this is good for the PS3. On the same note, X360 sales aren't good either, but by comparison, the PS3 has been out less time, and should be selling slightly more, due to European sales, since it launched recently there.



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marc on 20 July 2007

I think the price drop will come once they iron out the reliability issue. No point in selling more defective consoles. They are costing them a lot of money right now especially with the warranty extension and the fact remains that the 360 is a lawsuit waiting to happen. I wouldnt be surprised if they were forced to recall them all and I am sure MS knows that its a possibility. I am sure they wanted to drop the price but they have other issues to consider.

Do you want more people to buy a defective console and never trust your brand again?
What will the costs be for selling the current console with the new warranty given their breakage rate?
Are they facing a lawsuit that may call for a recall (I imagine they must be else the warranty wouldnt have been extended)?

Furthermore, a price drop will have a much more powerful effect during the holidays anyway. If MS can get a new console out before then and drop the price it will probably bury the PS3 in America.



NeoRatt on 20 July 2007

Notice MS didn't announce pricing for the Halo 3 console. I think that they will drop the price when they announce Halo 3 console pricing just in time for Halo 3, GTA IV, Mass Effect, and the holiday season.

Announcing a price drop now is usesless when everyone is vacationing and sales are generally slower for all consoles. Also, a price drop now in the face of the RRoD and Sony drop looks like they are reacting. If they wait and couple it with Halo 3 console launch it looks more proactive.