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What is up with this story? Resigning because of skinny dipping 12 years ago. Either there is more to the story or he was just looking for a way out.

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5i7VIy64ork7RvP0wvidryg_O9jQw

NDP candidate in Victoria-area riding resigns over naked swimming incident

VICTORIA — The federal New Democrat candidate for the B.C. riding of Saanich-Gulf Islands has resigned.

Julian West issued a statement Tuesday morning.

West apologized on the weekend for an incident 12 years ago in which he removed his clothes and swam naked at a retreat where children were present.

He says he made a "serious error in judgement," although he noted nothing else inappropriate happened.

He says he has informed the party of his decision and does not want his "candidacy to detract from the issues that should be front and centre in the campaign."

West is the third NDP candidate in B.C. to step down amid controversy, including two who resigned over their actions in support of legalizing marijuana.

Also, what is your stance on the whole controversy regarding cuts to artistic endeavors? I see it as a non-issue, but the media seems to say otherwise.



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Oh wow, skinny dipping 12 years ago? What a manwhore.

Anyway, it's looking good for NDP to make some progress this election, I'm very excited. I'm almost just as excited to watch the Liberals fail miserably.



Well, it might be more than skinny dipping:

http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Election-Central/2008/09/22/NudeWest/

Nude swimming NDP candidate faced further allegations

Over the weekend the NDP issued a statement about the behaviour of one of their B.C. candidates at a youth environment conference 12 years ago, but the party's release may have lacked some key details.

The September 21 statement quoted Saanich-Gulf Islands candidate Julian West saying, “On a number of occasions throughout the weekend I removed my clothing, in the presence of minors. Beyond that nothing inappropriate occurred.”

Other accounts differ. Told of West's statement, Steve Kisby said, “I would say that's a matter of judgment.”

Kisby was a provincial Green Party official at the time and led an investigation into the complaints. He remains involved in the Green Party. “There were a lot of conflicting opinions of what happened. It really was hard to determine what the facts were,” he said. “Some of the allegations did go beyond skinny dipping, but they were allegations.”

He added, “There was skinny dipping and there was body painting, and a number of people were involved in both.” He said West was involved in both activities.

In June, 1996, the Province newspaper reported that West skinny dipped, but also that he “got too excited during naked body painting” at a Conference for Earth at Mesachie Lake near Duncan. The story quoted Cowichan Secondary School principal Tom Miller saying several of the dozen young witnesses requested counselling and there were “fits of crying.” A parent said one child “nearly vomited.”

West said in a phone interview he believes his statement was accurate. Asked if he got an erection during the incident, West said, “no.

Reminded of the Province story, he said, “I don't want to start comparing media outlets to say which one had the more accurate story.”

He took no steps to correct the Province's 1996 account, he said. “I did not engage in any sort of back and forth with the media about details in stories at that time . . . Media get things wrong all the time. You just have to accept that people say what they say.”

West is one of three green candidates trying to unseat oil-friendly natural resources minister Gary Lunn in Saanich-Gulf Islands. Environmental activist and writer Briony Penn is running for the Liberals and Andrew Lewis is the Green Party candidate. Lewis last year refused a request from environmentalists asking him to drop out of the race to reduce vote splitting.

West blamed his political opponents for resurrecting the 12-year-old story.

Kisby said, “Clearly bringing this up at this time, when the person has been a candidate for a long time, seems a little underhanded.”

Last week the NDP withdrew two B.C. candidates. Dana Larsen, a candidate in West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast-Sea to Sky Country stepped out after it was revealed there are videos on the internet of him driving while stoned and his seed company was selling coca plants. Kirk Tousaw, a civil libertarian lawyer, dropped out in Vancouver-Quadra citing his past work on drug policy reform.

I'm not making a judgment based on this though.

The Orange quote is right in my opinion though. His opposing candidates should have kicked up a stink about it in time for him to withdraw so they could face a better candidate in a fair fight.



Yup. Dippers are dropping left and right because of nudity and pot...

What a fun country we could be!



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

So the French debate is now over. I enjoy the new sit down and talk amongst yourselves format. It worked pretty well. I am pleasantly surprised with the French speaking abilities of all of the leaders. I can't believe how much Harper's hair has greyed in the last few years.

Certainly, every leader has scored points on at least a few issues.



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Don't vote Bush!






Don't worry. I'm always against bush in favor of a smooth beaver.



I was expecting at least some discussion on the English language debate last night ...

For some reason, while watching last night I kept thinking about 4 mice being caught in a cage with a cat



I paid more attention to the French language debate, since I didn't have the Palin distraction. The English debate was good in that it allowed for a more free-flowing of ideas since it was in the mother tongue of more of the participants. I was impressed with Harper fending off a foursome of opposition, but everyone scored some points at some point.

If Duceppe was not in a party with a separatist agenda that cannot statistically aspire to power, I'd see him as my favorite leader.



Dogs Rule said:
I paid more attention to the French language debate, since I didn't have the Palin distraction. The English debate was good in that it allowed for a more free-flowing of ideas since it was in the mother tongue of more of the participants. I was impressed with Harper fending off a foursome of opposition, but everyone scored some points at some point.

If Duceppe was not in a party with a separatist agenda that cannot statistically aspire to power, I'd see him as my favorite leader.

I was just refering to how the four (most likely) opposition leaders (Layton, Dion, May, and Duceppe) spent the time attacking Harper, while Harper kept his cool while he explained his policies.

The one thing that I found (somewhat) funny was how Jack Layton, Elizabeth May, Stephan Dion, and Gilles Duceppe all seemed to be campaigning against George W. Bush. If you (actually) look at the policies and position of the Conservative policy of Canada they more closely resemble the Democrats from the United States than they resemble the Republicans.

On a side note, I have always thought that the Bloc could be very successful outside of Qubec if they talked about removing federal interference in provincial jurisdiction ...