That's exactly what I was saying on the first page about the red lights. If the red lights are used for many different errors, then the only way to completely stop it from happening would be to use a different way to display errors.

Stan85 said:
@ bbsin -> lol.
1. Your disk read error/scratching disks is because of the dvd,buy a samsung or benq off ebay and your done.

First of all, No. I've already tried that, please do not say something you have no idea about again, it's getting boring. Go look at my many posts when I tell others to do the same when they have disk errors on their 360 and you'll see that even though the dvd lens cleaner prevented disk scratching, i still get the disk read error pop ups.

2. MS id getting better,i gues now,with the jasper model,the 360 should have sold to the market. But by then,the ps3 will give him no chance,wright? Now you understand the quality testing skipping.
MS should have paid ATI,they didn`t,they failed,life goes on.

?wait. What does the PS3 have to do with anything? lol. and what is "quality testing skipping?" God. You've just proved to everyone that you're just another pathetic fanboy. Good job with the ranting, the PS3 is obviously making you feel a bit insecure, it's ok though. Insecurity is often a trait of fanboys that make threads trying to excuse the RROD from existence.

3. "Bottom line: The jasper will break and RROD still exists, just not as much as previous models. (hopefully)"
You are the desperate one,not me.
Why do you say that your frinds can fix 360 "most of the time" ? Maybe because they don`t do this for a living? Because they are not proffesionals? Yes. Speculations you say? I fail to see your point. It`s just the truth.

Desperate? me? so desperate that I'm willing to make a thread about how the 360 will never RROD again? Read your OP and tell me it isn't a post trying to make people forget about RROD and encouraging folks to go out and buy a 360. Like I said, it's pathetic.

And when i say most the time, I mean that 360 can't be fix 100% of the time. Just like how the RROD won't be 100% gone. duh, but i guess you lack the grey matter to realize that. Since your "friend" can fix a 360 no matter what the issue is, which Microsoft themselves can't even do (that's why they sometimes send out other consoles to replace yours! *gasp!!* who woulda guessed!?), maybe they should hire him instead. Use you're freaking head stan85, there are always problems that cannot be fixed.

General hardware failure? i have said about the memory,don`t say theoretical stuff... i only said practical things and explinations.

Hahahahaha, Yea because "RROD is no more" is pretty practical and can be proved without feedback. You are a joke. For mainly getting information off a friend instead of going off personal hands on experiences, you sure know alot. (not really)

Buttom line? your attempt to discourage people into buying a Jasper are a little weak. The price cut is a plus,360 does well in US.

Discourage? Unlike you, I don't care what other people buy. The point that you think I do just shows how clueless you really are.

Anything else i can help you with?

No, I've seen plenty from you. So far you proved to me that you cannot read and "speculated" that I'm a "360 hater", you do not have any facts to back up what you say, and you've proved to me by bringing up the PS3 in your own thread is quite pitiful and only reveals that you are a fanboy that's desperate enough to raise Microsoft sales manually via making a thread.

Now excuse me, while i spend my time playing some more Ninja Gaiden 2 on my much "hated" 360!

I addmit it. Every single post of mine is BS. Feel better? Excellent.

Stan85 said:
@ bbsin -> first of all,the ps3 will be all over the 360 if it hasn`t released early,i`m not trying to bash the ps3,read more carefuly.

I never accused you of bashing the PS3, i only pointed out that the PS3 had nothing to do with this topic.

Second,you are very aggresive in words,try to chill. I`m talking about the new models,you`re talking about the old one,that *some* can`t be fixed. How do you know that? You have a repair center at home? My friend has,and his not imaginary. The fact that you refuse to trust me is not my problem.

Fair enough, I do realize that I may have been too agressive and I take anything offensive back.

As far as talking about new and old, I'm talking about new. All I'm saying is that we cannot go by hardware specs alone to determine whether or not there will be any unexpected hardware failures. If i claimed that Sony would never have lens issues ever again after the PS1 because "they would have learned by now", that would be pretty irresponsible of me wouldn't it?

I know that some 360 cannot be fixed because I had friends that recieved new 360s in exchange for their dead ones. Believe me, if Microsoft can fix a console instead of send the costumer another one, they would.

About the memory failure,it`s very rare and it`s on the old models,what`s the deal with my "personal experience" ? You want me to fix 360 when my friend has been doing that from the start? I don`t think so,i provide informations. We are talking about old models and new ones,don`t you think it`s confusing?

This memory failure is not the only cause that can result in the RROD. What's so hard to understand? Many things can contribute to a dead 360, and sometimes issues arise from internal redesigns. Did the PS2 not have any problems when the slimline revision was released?

Anyway,it`s natural for people to think that rrod still exists,but with the Jasper model,it will be in a very small percentage. Everything can break.

You should have said that from the start, instead of claiming that there's no more RROD.