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d21lewis said:
You forgot Master D from Bionic Commando.

Haha, wow. How did I miss that? Epic.



Random game thought :
Why is Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 getting so much hate? We finally get a real game and they're not even satisfied... I'm starting to hate the gaming community so f****** much...

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colonelstubbs said:
Wheres margaret thatcher!

 

Even she doesn't know the answer to that now

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7579352.stm

 

Sunday, 24 August 2008 02:54 UK

Thatcher dementia fight revealed

The daughter of former UK prime minister Margaret Thatcher has spoken for the first time about her mother's struggle with dementia...



What about King Henry VIII? He was pretty brutal. Fighting in the Tower of London was punishable by:

- A fine.
- Life imprisonment (as in actual life inprisonment, you're not allowed out).
- The removal of your right hand.

And it wasn't a case of one of them, but you had all three done.



Sky Render said:
Hitler is a popular person to use as an example of an inherently evil leader, especially since his Antisemitism policies tug at the heartstrings of the devout of Western religions. It's sad, but there are a significant number of people who would say Hitler was worse than Mao or Stalin simply because he killed Jewish faithful. As if somehow a person's worth is less if they don't believe in a Western religion.

Actually, Hitler was worse than Stalin or Mao because he was the primary reason behind the European theater of WWII. If it wasn't for Hitler, WWII as we know it would not have happened. As bad as Mao and (especially) Stalin were, they did not start a war that pretty much wiped an entire continent off the map in addition to killing ~40 million people. (whether Stalin would have caused said war does not matter because Hitler beat him to it)

I'm not even the first to point it out. Excusing somebody for their crimes simply because they're the leader of your country is more or less fascism. You should never assume that somebody is right by default because they are in power, nor should you assume that they are wrong. Take in the facts and judge fairly, not allowing cultural or national bias to cloud your judgment. That's my take on it, anyway.

Even if you do assume the war in Iraq is a crime (I won't bother arguing whether it was or wasn't because it is not relevant to this topic) Bush wouldn't belong on that list because he is not the leader of a totalitarian or near-totalitarian government (meaning the other parts of the government are not required/forced to rubberstamp his decisions) and he needed (and still needs) the support of a sizeable portion of said government to continue his operations. (Note the word "dictator" in the headers of each table; as bad as Bush may be, he's certainly no dictator, not even close) If you want to include him on the list for deaths caused, you could, but he would have to be in a seperate category.



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SamuelRSmith said:
What about King Henry VIII? He was pretty brutal. Fighting in the Tower of London was punishable by:

- A fine.
- Life imprisonment (as in actual life inprisonment, you're not allowed out).
- The removal of your right hand.

And it wasn't a case of one of them, but you had all three done.

the problem with that is all rulers around that time had similar laws.....

 



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BringBackChrono said:

I vote for Truman. First use of Atomic bombs(that too on cities) begs for his nomination. Or were we just considering dictators? Cause being elected to office somehow makes it morally acceptable?

 

 FDR was president(Commander in Chief) at the time and delivired the infamy speech, so he would be one on the list not Truman  (Hence my post earlier why isn't FDR on the list?)



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When i first read the title i thought it said "the who can compare to hitler"

i thought you meant the band the who (baba o'reilly, who are you, pinball wizard, etc.).


But anyways, great list! its interesting to see all these bad people. I wish hitler had been tried and executed, but he chose to take the "cowards way out" and take his own life.



Who else can compare to Hitler, other then his parallel universe counterpart, Fuhrer King Bradley!!!!!



 

 

 

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Retrasado said:
SamuelRSmith said:
What about King Henry VIII? He was pretty brutal. Fighting in the Tower of London was punishable by:

- A fine.
- Life imprisonment (as in actual life inprisonment, you're not allowed out).
- The removal of your right hand.

And it wasn't a case of one of them, but you had all three done.

the problem with that is all rulers around that time had similar laws.....

 

 

 And that justifies it?

No, no, no. Many kings/queens of those times in many countries were far worse than Hitler. The difference being that Hitler actually believed the things about the Jews, and communists. Whereas the kings/queens done it for their own entertainment.



People forget how f***** up Pol Pot was, a man who executed 1/3 of his own nation, sometimes for things like wearing glasses because that was an item that an intelligent would possess.

Leopold II is on the List, but not Queen Victoria, i know colonisation of Congo Free State was brutal , but hey it's not like British Empire made everyone so happy. And i dont see why Kaiser Wilhelm is on this list and not Clemencau or George V ? Wilhelm did not start the war, it was equally anticiaped by all the sides.

I know winners write history, but people seem to forget that apparently those "good" leaders are sometimes no different to monster like the Kaiser lol