I don't know if GamesRadar is lying, but their comments seem to directly contradict those of some other previews. Maybe the other guys are lying.....!!!!

Whatever Starcraft.

Sure you're "alluding and speculating". That's all you do. Why not be real for once?

Why did you quote MY post and bring up Killzone 2, when my post had nothing to do with it? Why instead of naming the game, you decided to describe the game with all the perhaps and ellipses, and the like? Why not just name the game? Why did you bring the PS3 into it? I didn't mention the PS3 at all in my post?

I really would like to know the answers to these questions. You brought Killzone 2 into the argument, and then tried to cry foul when I wanted you to prove your points. You came in "speculating" about Killzone 2, the delay, the cost, and the like, and when I asked you to back it up, somehow I needed to back it up, assumptions that I didn't make. And then you try to say how I shot myself in the foot, when all I did in my first post the only problem that I had is that they "reviewed" ten minute scored. No, you shot yourself in the foot when you brought Killzone 2 into the mix, because it showed your true intentions, which are that you do believe what you wrote about Killzone, since GamesRadar didn't mention any of the things in the post that you made.

Just stop starcraft. No one is arguing against their Killzone 2 preview here, I happen to believe that they can say whatever they want to say about any game, but don't try to turn this around on me when you brought this game into the mix.

Odd how his opinions differ so much to the journalists at the other gaming sites.

RE5 only an 8? (GT's most hyped game for E3.)

Fallout 3 a 10? (The game that looks very so-so from the videos).

It's not just the Killzone review that seems a little off.

I'll first point out that you have once again slinked out of actually dealing with what I said in my post, and will now deal with the tangent towards which you have taken our conversation.

In your first post you asked a (presumably) rhetorical question to which I gave a sarcastic answer.  I then seperately went on to discuss the possible implications of Gamesradar's KZ2 score in relation to the game's release date.  I don't see where I directly related KZ2 to you at all?  In fact, I've been wondering why you have had such a violent reaction to Killzone 2 being mentioned.  Once again, everyone else in this thread seems to have understood and accepted the intentions of the link (whether they agree with the conclusions or not) and everyone else seems to understand that most of the discussion that will take place on these boards centers around speculation that may or may not be based on speculation.

I believe it was actually Gamesradar that brought Killzone 2 into the mix, but YOU were the one that instigated a conversation between US about Killzone 2.  You've no more or less evidence that Killzone 2 will be good or bad than I.  Clearly it was implication that some evidence points towards a PS3 exclusive being poor that got you riled up.

Try to be less sensitive.  Its only the interwebs.

Some of the games arent releasing for 5-6 months and they review now, think its a little bit too early but thats just me.

So you quote me, and I am the one bringing Killzone 2 into the convo?

You're not dumb.

If that wasn't directed at me, you would have thrown an "OT" before you made the Killzone 2 assumption, and that would have been that.

You've been here long enough, and I've seen you do that enough times to understand when to throw an "OT" into a post, so as not confuse the person you quoted.  But you didn't do that.  You directed it at me.  Don't lie now.  Like I said in my post, be real.  You know you directed it at me.

And the internet is serious business.

While I will be the first in line to jump on anything that knocks the hype around Killzone 2 back to reasonable levels, I cannot get behind using Games Radar as a source. They have shown a strong 360 bias from what I have seen as of late. I am not surprised at all to see them bad mouth the next big game.

@DmeisterJ
All delays to a game are done over quality concerns. The game can get into a form where it can run on a system relatively quickly, but the game would just suck then. You need to spend the time polishing up the game and implementing as many of your ideas as you can to make the game as good as possible.

I think a lot of you might be shocked to see how high Fallout 3 scores on the review chart, lol.

Maybe I'm wrong though.

L to the awl.
Killzone 2 got raped.
It's still kinda fishy how they had given it a 5/10 and only give 4 lines of explanation.
But still, got raped.

Agreed, that's my take on it as well. However, I seem to remember a 10 top game consoles of all time list from this site, with the x360 placing #1. That alone makes me question most anything they have to say.