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Squilliam said:
HappySqurriel said:

I think it has been several years since we've had a lot of games on the PC that were CPU bound. With that in mind I think it would be pretty foolish to move towards an unconventional architecture which will (likely) break backwards compatibility in order to get additional processing power.

I could be wrong, but I would suggest to Microsoft that they should focus on producing as powerful of a CPU as they can while maintaining backwards compatibility, maintaining a conventional design (for developers), and keeping costs low.

 

 Larrabee is a GPU not a CPU in case you were confused.

 

From what I have seen Larrabee is a GPU on CPU cores.



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heheh....
Microsoft PR - "Just wait, with the next xbox you'll be able to play games at 2004 quality graphics in standard definition!"

(I kid, I kid - I know Larrabee will be better than the craptacular intel graphics chips we have now)



the biggest problem is with out cooling cpu's max out at 3.2 ghz so instead of making 4.0 or 4.5 ghz they go the way of multicore 2 cpu's 4 cpu's even with die shrinks. So gpu's are way more advanced then cpu's interms of transistors.

that going to a centralized chip cpugpu that does both is what manufacturers are looking into. Amd owns Ati now and who knows maybe MS will be forced into a deal with Amd if it sticks with Ati as its graphics chip.

Also this Ibm supercomputer talk seams mute why did Mac leave Ibm and return to intel why do PC's play games better then macs????

if intels cpu's suck so bad why doesnt ibm rule the pc market???

I agree they probably do own the supercomputer market but thats a highend costly market where that much power isnt going into a console and he cell in the ps3 isnt the same as the supercomputer way more cache and sorts!

Of course if it is the same that would be interesting.



Squilliam said:
HappySqurriel said:

I think it has been several years since we've had a lot of games on the PC that were CPU bound. With that in mind I think it would be pretty foolish to move towards an unconventional architecture which will (likely) break backwards compatibility in order to get additional processing power.

I could be wrong, but I would suggest to Microsoft that they should focus on producing as powerful of a CPU as they can while maintaining backwards compatibility, maintaining a conventional design (for developers), and keeping costs low.

 

 Larrabee is a GPU not a CPU in case you were confused.

Made of CPU cores, made to replace both the CPU and GPU. I think it deserves a category of its own



Daddo Splat said:

Also this Ibm supercomputer talk seams mute why did Mac leave Ibm and return to intel why do PC's play games better then macs????

if intels cpu's suck so bad why doesnt ibm rule the pc market???

 

The PC world is stuck with x86 architecture. I don't expect to see anything that does not run x86 instructions in the next 20 years. A console is not constrained to this. So IBM can make a CPU without boundaries.

Oh, and the reason Apple went with intel, is heat. IBM could not keep the same architecture and compete with Intel on heat/cost. (this is the issue with the 360, heat from the PPC based CPU)

Intel will have the same problem with IBM when they play in there sandbox.



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Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
HappySqurriel said:

I think it has been several years since we've had a lot of games on the PC that were CPU bound. With that in mind I think it would be pretty foolish to move towards an unconventional architecture which will (likely) break backwards compatibility in order to get additional processing power.

I could be wrong, but I would suggest to Microsoft that they should focus on producing as powerful of a CPU as they can while maintaining backwards compatibility, maintaining a conventional design (for developers), and keeping costs low.

 

 Larrabee is a GPU not a CPU in case you were confused.

Made of CPU cores, made to replace both the CPU and GPU. I think it deserves a category of its own

it already does have one. GPCPU or CPGPU forget which way it goes.

 



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Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
HappySqurriel said:

I think it has been several years since we've had a lot of games on the PC that were CPU bound. With that in mind I think it would be pretty foolish to move towards an unconventional architecture which will (likely) break backwards compatibility in order to get additional processing power.

I could be wrong, but I would suggest to Microsoft that they should focus on producing as powerful of a CPU as they can while maintaining backwards compatibility, maintaining a conventional design (for developers), and keeping costs low.

 

 Larrabee is a GPU not a CPU in case you were confused.

Made of CPU cores, made to replace both the CPU and GPU. I think it deserves a category of its own

 

Didn't the PS3 proves this was a bad idea? The CELL was supposed to be this too.



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TheRealMafoo said:
Rainbird said:
Squilliam said:
HappySqurriel said:

I think it has been several years since we've had a lot of games on the PC that were CPU bound. With that in mind I think it would be pretty foolish to move towards an unconventional architecture which will (likely) break backwards compatibility in order to get additional processing power.

I could be wrong, but I would suggest to Microsoft that they should focus on producing as powerful of a CPU as they can while maintaining backwards compatibility, maintaining a conventional design (for developers), and keeping costs low.

 

 Larrabee is a GPU not a CPU in case you were confused.

Made of CPU cores, made to replace both the CPU and GPU. I think it deserves a category of its own

 

Didn't the PS3 proves this was a bad idea? The CELL was supposed to be this too.

lol, well PCs are going full circle back to some form of parallel processing.

 



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Considering so far the cell has proved itself to be of no real usefulness as far as it's use in a videogaming console I can't see how intel or whoever should bother to beat it. The whole cell broadband engine is just useful for certain types of niche computational calculations.





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